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re: A look back at Johnson’s teams fielding % and national rank for errors

Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Eatem up
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2017
570 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:26 am to
Just put Doughty at 3rd and Merrifield/Bianco at 2nd. Infield will get better.

Digiacomo at Center, Cruise in Right, Dugas in Left.

Berry DH.

Defense will get a lot better.

LFG!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58945 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:40 am to
Damn. That is concerning. Obviously picks offense over defense, but that is just ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30808 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:25 am to
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Berry DH


CJJ will die on the hill that berry will be in the field so fans need to get used to it.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10008 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:45 am to
I thought Doughty looked better at 2B this weekend than he has all year. I still don't see how you'd lose anything by switching him and Merrifield, but I think you just stick with it now.

Thompson looked more confident, but he's obviously still not there. We just don't have another option.



Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13951 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:49 am to
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We've already made 35 errors this season


And that’s with some score keepers being lenient.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23436 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:53 am to
Yeah, I agree on him giving Berry more than a fair opportunity to find a position in the field

That had to be the case for him to make the move, I'm sure.

His value at the next level is completely dependent on playing a position. I don't see MLB teams spending 1st round bonuses on just a stick that would have to translate directly to the league.

I think the lineup will eventually adjust to SEC pitching well enough to score the runs. The problem comes when you don't have the dominant pitching to pitch around the extra batters, especially when those runners are advancing on passed balls and/or you're avoiding throwing waste pitches b/c you can't block them.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73612 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 11:59 am to
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His value at the next level is completely dependent on playing a position.


It's dependent on having the ability to learn to play a position. It's not dependent on being able to play a position now. The amount of reps and coaching he would get in the minor leagues would make him a passable 1B or corner OF. We don't have the time to devote to that or an affiliate that needs a first basemen. We also have to win now.

quote:

I don't see MLB teams spending 1st round bonuses on just a stick that would have to translate directly to the league.


They take bat first guys early all the time. Andrew Vaughn, Spencer Torkelson, and especially Keston Hiura were all considered subpar fielders that in some cases projected and have proven to be outright bad in the field. It's not as big a deal as people want to keep making it.

The biggest thing that will sink Berry is if he keeps going hitless on Fridays.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:02 pm to
I do think Johnson’s teams are going to better defensively here then at other stops. Just with the caliber of players he’s going to attract that he was unable to get at Arizona.

This year there’s a lot of room for improvement. But I do think we will see a lot of his teams closer to .970-.975 in the next few years.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
15991 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I think there are some obvious changes that they should try to help with the bad defense, and I'm not sure why they haven't tried any of them.

Is Johnson the anti-tinkerer?

quote:

TBH, throwing errors seem to be more prevalent than booting ground balls. The number of poor throws on routine plays is honestly amazing to see from an SEC baseball team. And just for kicks, let's look at Skip's teams who were never really known for having great defenses

2001 .956
2000 .964
1999 .961
1998 .964
1997 .966
1996 .963
1995 .970
1994 .963
1993 .956
1992 .966
1991 .959
1990 .962
1989 .957

I don't think you can compare the two groups. I think scoring has become more forgiving for the defenses these days (no data to support). But mainly because the exit speed off the old bats was significantly higher than current bats.
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4139 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:30 pm to
Broke down the numbers and if you just take out the unearned runs for both LSU and their opponents in the 5 losses, LSU is 2-1 in conference play right now and possibly 17-3 overall. They still lose to Texas, Baylor and the Friday night game vs A&M. Earned runs were even versus Tech, but they probably still lose that a game, which would put them at 16-4.

All of that said, as has been said, a lot of these are mental errors. This team has a lot of talent and this IS fixable. CJJ has one of the greatest coaches in history in his corner who was known for getting his teams mentally prepared. Maybe Skip can give him some guidance here.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22418 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 12:41 pm to
Holy shite.

We’re in trouble, baws
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
15991 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 4:24 pm to
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They still lose to Texas, Baylor and the Friday night game vs A&M

The Friday game was lost because of a misplayed routine fly ball by Bianco. It dropped for a double when it should have easily been caught.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15882 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

2017 Arizona: 156th (.968)
2017 LSU: 14th (.980)

2018 Arizona: 52nd (.975)
2018 LSU: 16th (.979)

2019 Arizona: 232nd (.962)
2019 LSU: 40th (.977)

2020 Arizona: 220th (.958)
2020 LSU: 31st (.979)

2021 Arizona: 159th (.967)
2021 LSU: 72nd (.973)


CPM avg rank 35th

JJ avg rank 164th


Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68628 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

His value at the next level is completely dependent on playing a position.

No it's not.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15553 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:12 pm to
You have to field .980+ to compete for a title.

The IF should be Doughty at 3B, Merrifield at 2B, Cranford at SS.

OF should go L to R Dugas, Gio, Crews

DH Berry with Jobert as an option against lefties.
Posted by AZtoLSU
Member since Feb 2022
9 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:12 pm to
I said before in a previous response that this is because JJ has always shown a willingness to put hitters out of position in exchange for some offensive production. While I don't disagree that this might net you some wins over a 55 game schedule(it will also lose you some), it is NOT a recipe for success in the post-season. If you can't play D in Regionals/Supers/Omaha, you ain't gonna win.
Posted by AZtoLSU
Member since Feb 2022
9 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 6:18 pm to
"Caliber of player?" The only way you can justify that comment is if you base it on PG or PBR rankings. Fact is, many of the better players that LSU gets to commit never make it to campus. So your "top ranked" recruiting class doesn't turn out to be near what it's ranked to be. And what are those rankings anyway? Pure speculation. How's LSU doing this year vs Arizona? Arizona has a top 5 RPI ranking, they're actually playing some stiff competition out of conference. LSU's patsy schedule clearly didn't prepare them for SEC play and now LSU fans are complaining about CJJ. Point is, I don't think the difference in talent is anywhere near what you like to think it is. Rankings are crap, development is key, culture is huge.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68628 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

You have to field .980+ to compete for a title.

No you don’t. .980 is going to lead the nation most years. You don’t have to lead the nation to win a title.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15553 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:24 pm to
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willingness to put hitters out of position in exchange for some offensive production.


Which is terrible. Hitting comes and goes, and is subject to a lot of luck. Defense is permanent.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23436 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:27 pm to
I’m sorry

His draft value, IMO

If that’s not the case, are you saying that Johnson is playing him in RF and 3rd base b/c he is the team’s best option at those positions?
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