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re: A Letter From Joe Alleva about night games.

Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:55 am to
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:55 am to
Given a choice, do you think other memebers of our conference would rather play us in the afternoon, rather than Sat. Nite in Tiger Stadium?
Do you think this influences our opportunites to have the SEC negotiate a contract that permts us to keep our nite games, even when televised?
What real world choices does Alleva have about this?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:56 am to
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Except for CBS loses money showing an sec game versus normal programming
they're already showing a primetime game right? lsu wants to play at night, right? other schools don't really care right? do you see where this is going?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:56 am to
quote:

What real world choices does Alleva have about this?


Pretty much nothing
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:56 am to
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Espn and sec have a 25 billion dollar contract


I think it was part of the Obama stimulus package.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29453 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
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If you really think nick saban controls CBS, then there is nothing else to say.


Did I say he controlled them? Is it any secret how hard Alabama is lobbying to keep the UT series? Why would it be any different if little nicky didn't want to play on Friday? Do you think their administration would tell him to stuff it and they wouldn't lobby to have the game on Saturday?
Posted by steelreign
Deridder
Member since Jan 2009
11086 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
I can't stand the fact that TV has more control than the college's themselves over the college football schedule.
Posted by Bandits
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2008
3170 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
It should definitely be a contract negotiation point when the contracts comes up next time. LSU has traditions just like everyone else int he SEC and those should be respected. Third Saturday in October is not more important than Saturday night in Death Valley.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
quote:

they're already showing a primetime game right? lsu wants to play at night, right? other schools don't really care right? do you see where this is going?


Yes, ONE game. And they take a hit on it.

Bama Florida gets higher ratings than LSU Florida ect

Already proven
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29453 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
quote:

I think it was part of the Obama stimulus package.


Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:57 am to
quote:

they're already showing a primetime game right? lsu wants to play at night, right? other schools don't really care right? do you see where this is going?



Yes, I also see where Alabama-Florida are going to draw more viewers than LSU-Auburn, or even LSU-Florida.

Posted by LSUROCKS52
Rest in Peace
Member since Oct 2003
56 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:58 am to
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IT'S IN THEIR CONTRACT, ESPN HAS A MONOPOLY ON ALL SATURDAY NIGHT GAMES.


so ESPN can say, "frick you, we control the nights?"
Posted by marklsu
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2008
1476 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 10:58 am to
TheDoc,

You make a good point about Nielsen, but those ratings have 2 factors attached to them.

One: Viewership as a whole tends to increase in the night time. More people are free to watch TV.

Two: These ratings are only the alternative of not having a football game to air. If an LSU/FLORIDA, LSU/ALABAMA was scheduled during that time, I'm sure the rating would be great. Just as strong as their normal network lineup.

Plus, they would probably enjoy the advertising bucks the game would bring.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:00 am to
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You can thank LSU for that. This year tailgating has been reduced all over campus. In the past I hosted tailgates for all home games rain or shine now only 4 tailgates this year. Next year who knows. Its getting to the point that I probably wont even be on campus for western kentucky and watch the game at home.


I agree the $40 a pop parking has hurt on-campus numbers. but I also think there's a cultural aspect as well. winning has spoiled our fanbase, and there's also the fact that more people are interested in watching other games (mostly due to fantasy leagues and/or gambling) and can't seem to get over drinking copious amounts of beer all day while they sit in the A/C.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29453 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:00 am to
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so ESPN can say, "frick you, we control the nights?"


In the current contract, yes......so it's a moot point. CBS gets one Saturday night game per year.......period.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:00 am to
quote:

It should definitely be a contract negotiation point when the contracts comes up next time


2023

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quote:

LSU has traditions just like everyone else int he SEC and those should be respected.


$$$ > tradition. Welcome to big boy college football

quote:

Third Saturday in October is not more important than Saturday night in Death Valley.


Guess which game CBS chose?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Two: These ratings are only the alternative of not having a football game to air. If an LSU/FLORIDA, LSU/ALABAMA was scheduled during that time, I'm sure the rating would be great. Just as strong as their normal network lineup.


At this time of the year...a night game on CBS goes up against:

NASCAR, MLB Playoffs, and the ABC Primetime Game.

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:01 am to
quote:

so ESPN can say, "frick you, we control the nights?"


Yep

2.5 billion dollars says they do
And the sec signed the contract
Posted by LSUROCKS52
Rest in Peace
Member since Oct 2003
56 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:01 am to
didn't CBS do their contract before ESPN swooped in to pick up all the non-CBS games? at that point why would CBS not say we're going to broadcast 1 SEC game in prime time a week, you know, kinda like they currently pick one for 230
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58554 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:01 am to
quote:

you really think LSU has more people on campus that Alabama or florida
yes, without a doubt. unquestionably.

quote:
Georgia probably competes with us too
not if you include the number of people who are just on campus tailgating
yea... you dont know shite.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/11 at 11:02 am to
quote:


If an LSU/FLORIDA, LSU/ALABAMA was scheduled during that time, I'm sure the rating would be great. Just as strong as their normal network lineup.


You'd be wrong
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