- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: A fun fact for Scott Woodward and LSU admin
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:01 pm to PotatoChip
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:01 pm to PotatoChip
quote:
I’m not sure LSU can pay to be at the top of all sports. What would you do as an AD?
This is such a BS narrative that is made up in the minds of morons here.
LSU has regularly won in football and baseball. LSU was winning in basketball as recently as Will Wade. And the basketball program was heavily supported then, and absolutely nothing is preventing it from being heavily supported now. People support gymnastics. Wanna know why? They win.
Basketball is dieing a slow, painful death by 1000 paper cuts. They aren't supported because nothing about them gets fans excited right now.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 8:16 pm
1
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:52 am to Jack Crevalle
quote:
LSU's last home game under McMahon, vs. #25 Ole Miss: Attendance- 6,980
LSU's final home game under Wade, vs. #25 Alabama: Attendance- 11,237
The actual attendance gap is probably even wider. ~7,000 tickets sold, probably half of that actually went.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:54 am to Hold That Tiger 10
In 2019 LSU won the national championship in football, won the SEC and went to the sweet 16 in basketball and went to the supers in baseball.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:59 am to Jack Crevalle
Woody needs to appeal to the Liberal Democrats in DC for aid/assistance for the handicapped. We should be more deserving than foreign counties deserve sesame street.
Maybe Woody should donate videos of his basketball team. That would get more laughs.e
Maybe Woody should donate videos of his basketball team. That would get more laughs.e
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:02 am to drizztiger
quote:
MBB turns a $1+ million profit even during these dark ages.
Is that a result of the SEC TV Contract?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:04 am to Jack Crevalle
How many of you that will not quit bitching about basketball actually have season tickets? Donate to the program? NIL etc?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:20 am to Madking
quote:
In 2019 LSU won the national championship in football, won the SEC and went to the sweet 16 in basketball and went to the supers in baseball.
That’s 2 different school years but the point stands no reason to sacrifice a sport let alone the only one besides football that actually brings in revenue
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:27 am to Basura Blanco
quote:
The short answer is no, and even if we did, it would have to be a mens sport due to Title IX.
Title IX does not require you to spend a level to compete for championships I don’t think he means cut a sport just to “deemphasize” it in terms of spending
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:28 am to drizztiger
quote:
MBB turns a $1+ million profit even during these dark ages.
No, that was LAST year, McMahon's 2nd. It'll be much worse this year as attendance will be even lower. MBB will probably lose money this year.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:41 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
How many of you that will not quit bitching about basketball actually have season tickets? Donate to the program? NIL etc?
Most people do not have season tickets or donate to NIL football or baseball either. It is not unreasonable to want to be competitive in a major revenue producing sport.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:53 am to H-Town Tiger
You’re correct but they were in succession right? 2018-19 hoops then 2019 baseball then 2019 football or am I misremembering it?
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:55 am to Ponchy Tiger
How large do you think the LSU fan base is? Do you think there’s enough season tickets for all of them? I know you guys love that talking point but it’s nonsensical.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:56 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:59 am to Madking
quote:
You’re correct but they were in succession right? 2018-19 hoops then 2019 baseball then 2019 football or am I misremembering it?
Correct. LSU basketball won the SEC in March of 2019. Baseball played in the Super Regionals in June of 2019. LSU football then won the NC for the 2019 season (though the championship game was played in January, 2020)
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:04 am to Madking
quote:
You’re correct but they were in succession right? 2018-19
Correct basketball made the Sweet 16 and baseball the Supers in the spring of 2019 that school year the FB team won the Fiesta Bowl. After the NC spring sports were canceled sadly but MBB was on track to make the tourney
It is a false choice if anyone says we can not compete in all 3, that one has to be sacrificed. Baseball basically pays for itself. Not spending on MBB is actually leaving money on the table.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:08 am to Alt26
I just don’t get the “we can’t afford it” narrative. McMahon makes more than over 300 college basketball coaches and a lot of those guys would take a major pay raise to coach in the SEC. Nate Oats went from 700k to 2.5mil going from Buffalo to Bama who had just been caught paying Colin Sexton. Ben Howland made it to 3 straight final 4s at UCLA then went to a bad Mississippi State program. Tom Crean made the final 4 at Marquette and 3 sweet 16s at Indiana and took the UGA job. Money isn’t causing bad hires at LSU and that doesn’t go just for Matt McMahon, it’s been going on here.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:12 am to H-Town Tiger
Agree, making the NCAA tourney is what a 2million dollar boost in cash? That alone is more than the program made both years under McMahon. Hire someone who can get you into the tourney consistently and the program will ascend quickly.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:09 am to Mats86
8>13
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:14 am to Madking
quote:
I just don’t get the “we can’t afford it” narrative.
The money for McMahon's salary next year is spent. Whether he coaches the team or not, he's getting paid that salary. The only real question is does LSU just want to rip the band-aid off now and cut a check for 4 year's worth of salary, or have McMahon coach next year (with a low likelihood of satisfactory results) and cut a check at the end of next season for 3 years worth of salary? Either way, he's getting paid the contractually remaining amount of his contract. My position is that a good hire that produces increased revenue next season can offset that 1 extra year you would be paying McMahon to not coach.
To me, the purported increase in NIL funding makes little sense because the boosters would more likely than not just be throwing good money at a shaky "investment". McMahon has been here for nearly 3 seasons, with 3 very different rosters, and hasn't proven he can win to any significant degree whatsoever.
To put things in a bit of context, tonight will be the 90th game McMahon has coached for LSU. In the 89 prior his record is 43-46 (.438). If you dive a bit deeper, you see 28 of those games (nearly 1/3rd) have been against non-power conf opponents (SEC, Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East). In those games McMahon is 25-3. That means against major conf. opponents he is 18-43 (.295). Worse when you limit that to just SEC opponents. So basically you have a guy who is winning less than 3 of every 10 games he plays vs. major conf. opponents....which is a bit of a problem considering LSU is a major conf. team.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:20 am to Alt26
Correct it’s a sunk cost situation where keeping him likely will cost you more than starting over in the long run. The bigger concern imo is the fact that the rest of the SEC is blowing past us while this happens where you have the group we’re historically in way out of reach and the traditional bottom feeders passing us by making quality hires. It’s not 2013, you can’t just get a good coach and return to the second tier just because. You have to be competitive in every aspect of the program but as of today we’re competitive in none.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:13 pm to Jack Crevalle
quote:
Out of the 16 SEC MBB teams, LSU has the 13th lowest avg. home game attendance this year at 7,929. This number will continue to plummet under McMahon.
Honestly, Year 1 should've been a warning sign: McMahon brings in a top transfer class to fill out the roster and signs a top 25 HS class in the wake of Wade's firing, we lose only one OOC game and beat top 10 Arkansas to kick off SEC play, then when we start struggling and losing in conference play, McMahon had no answers. The same thing's happening this year, McMahon's rep as a good coach always was a mirage, we got seduced by the 31-3 year his last year at Murray to convince ourselves we'd be OK.
Page 2 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News