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re: 5 Reasons why all u JD5 Haters can STFU. He was EXACTLY what we needed in 2022.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:03 pm to LSU12223
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:03 pm to LSU12223
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How does that take away the fact that the dude won the Sec west. Idc about the stats. Stats are overrated. Only one stat actually matters. Winning games. The dude has won here. What’s hard to understand about that.
Exaclty what people were saying about Les when he started to slide. You could see the problems and diminshed play, but he was still winning so there was no reason to discuss any problem.
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Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:09 pm to Scatback1
quote:surprised it took that long. never fails the brainwashed idiots with too low IQ to debate always come in and interject race into it
by Scatback1
The issue is black and white
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:20 pm to TigerFan244
JD isn’t nearly as good as some make him out to be and he’s not as bad as some make him out to be.. No one will ever know if one of the other QB’s could have done better, we can only speculate one way or the other. You don’t absolutely need a DT QB with a suspect OL. Even Max Johnson put up 2814 yards 27 TD’s ( the same total number of TD’s by JD ) with 6 INT’s and 33 sacks ( 9 less than JD ) behind a way worse line that didn’t get better throughout the year like the line did this year.
JD’s completion rate is good because he threw primarily comebacks, sit downs and outs with a few deeper throws sprinkled into that. If you extrapolate his numbers to BY and SB’s number of attempts downfield his completion rate would drop a good bit, that’s the only legitimate comparison. JD is deficient in 4-5 areas ( pre and post snap reads, slow processing skills, not throwing on time, has risk averse issues and isn’t that accurate on deeper throws), that limits him, the utilization of the talents around him and limits the overall offense and is why it will be hard ( but not impossible ) for him to become a top level QB.
JD’s completion rate is good because he threw primarily comebacks, sit downs and outs with a few deeper throws sprinkled into that. If you extrapolate his numbers to BY and SB’s number of attempts downfield his completion rate would drop a good bit, that’s the only legitimate comparison. JD is deficient in 4-5 areas ( pre and post snap reads, slow processing skills, not throwing on time, has risk averse issues and isn’t that accurate on deeper throws), that limits him, the utilization of the talents around him and limits the overall offense and is why it will be hard ( but not impossible ) for him to become a top level QB.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:58 pm to The Dudes Rug
Look man you just can’t reason with people who want to be miserable
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:59 pm to Damone
Having a sprained ankle probably had a lot to do with it, he had to rely on throwing because his instinct to run wasn’t a viable option. He made some good aggressive throws because of that, hopefully that was a wake up call to him that he can get it done throwing and use his legs as last resort.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:02 pm to novabill
Les wasn’t winning games though…. Daniel’s is. It’s not like the offense is that horrendous either. The offense scores enough points to win. That’s kinda my point here. Daniels does enough to score points.
Flip side
You can have an offense be the number 1 ranked offense in terms of yardage. That means either your offense is really good, your defense sucks and puts the offense in shitty situations. Your special teams sucks and puts your offense in shitty situations. Those three things right there are all ways the yardage can be really good and only one of those three options actually can win games.
Flip side
You can have an offense be the number 1 ranked offense in terms of yardage. That means either your offense is really good, your defense sucks and puts the offense in shitty situations. Your special teams sucks and puts your offense in shitty situations. Those three things right there are all ways the yardage can be really good and only one of those three options actually can win games.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:03 pm to Pauly D
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If JD was such a good QB he wouldn’t be coming back next yr. The fact of the matter is the NFL and Boutte unlike some LSU fans knows he can’t pass worth a flip either.
Exactly.
As I said, next year's offense should be entertaining.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:11 pm to Thacian
quote:This is what most people here wanted. Let Nuss or even Howard use this year to build for the future.
NUSS should have started and let the team grow for next year just like we did in most all positions with new player this year.
Anyone with eyes could see after the first game this wasn’t a Burrow situation. He is not coming back next year and light the world on fire. It will be the same ole shite.
If BK took the route most wanted you would be coming into next year with a redshirt sophomore or sophomore with a full year of experience. I know Howards family wanted him to redshirt so Howard playing this year was probably not going to happen.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:13 pm to TigerFan244
Exactly what we needed???? So we won every game?
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:14 pm to Cooterlane
We overachieved I don’t think anyone expected to make it to atlanta or be undefeated. Horrible take sit down try again
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:19 pm to TigerFan244
Not too hard to rack up them stats with 2-5 yard passes idiot.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:37 pm to des4271
Best post yet regarding this issue, have an upvote.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:39 pm to TigerFan244
This is way too logical for this board
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:47 pm to des4271
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JD isn’t nearly as good as some make him out to be and he’s not as bad as some make him out to be.. No one will ever know if one of the other QB’s could have done better, we can only speculate one way or the other. You don’t absolutely need a DT QB with a suspect OL. Even Max Johnson put up 2814 yards 27 TD’s ( the same total number of TD’s by JD ) with 6 INT’s and 33 sacks ( 9 less than JD ) behind a way worse line that didn’t get better throughout the year like the line did this year.
JD’s completion rate is good because he threw primarily comebacks, sit downs and outs with a few deeper throws sprinkled into that. If you extrapolate his numbers to BY and SB’s number of attempts downfield his completion rate would drop a good bit, that’s the only legitimate comparison. JD is deficient in 4-5 areas ( pre and post snap reads, slow processing skills, not throwing on time, has risk averse issues and isn’t that accurate on deeper throws), that limits him, the utilization of the talents around him and limits the overall offense and is why it will be hard ( but not impossible ) for him to become a top level QB.
I agree with the other poster who said this was a good post.
I don't think Daniels is bad at all, but I do wonder if LSU would have been a better team with a different QB. I would like to see a QB who puts the receivers in better position to make plays. We will never know and small sample sizes of other QBs do not prove anything.
I remember watching Daniels as a true Freshman and being wowed. I was happy he transferred here. I don't hate him, but watching him over a year has been both awesome and frustrating.
People like to point to Daniels stats and how he already ranks highly on LSU's all-time QBs, but I've been saying that QBs in the future will continue to put up stats. We went so long with bad QB play and even run heavy type of offenses. As you pointed out, look at the stats Max put up with a worse team. Look at the stats Brennan was putting before he got injured.
QBs will continue to put up stats at LSU now that the offense has evolved and the talent is still there. I am not afraid of making a QB change just because one guy has some stats people justify.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 4:32 pm to HTX Bayou Bengal
When your QB finishes 45th in passing you are NOT going to win championships. This was a fluke year when a two loss West team won it. I thank JD for his efforts but if he doesn't improve significantly in the passing game we are going to be the same team we were this year.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 5:51 pm to TigerFan244
I see the posters point and I agree to an extent, but again it's not a fact that we wouldn't of had success with someone else too. That is his opinion and I'm good with that, but it could of been even better with someone else, the same, or worse. I'm just happy that we exceeded expectations and going in the right direction.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 6:06 pm to idlewatcher
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Now compare these stats with 20+ yd throws vs completions.
Still waiting OP. Wake me up before you go go
Posted on 12/29/22 at 6:19 pm to HTX Bayou Bengal
He didn’t take sacks, he was sacked.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 6:22 pm to TigerFan244
The idea that anyone has to defend the QB that lead LSU to victory over Bama and a SECW title in a total rebuild year shows you how absurd lsu fans can be.
Posted on 12/29/22 at 6:59 pm to Forever
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I love this narrative from people who blindly look at his stats and apparently didn’t watch him play in real life. When your wide receivers are open on an island 20 times a game and you completely miss them, you’re not a good QB. Sorry
yup!
the football ignorant retards out themselves every time with posts like oweos. he is exactly what he accuses others of being. hilarious!
also look at his ypa and intermediate and deep metrics. they tell the tale. sacks, etc.
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