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re: 247 Roster Talent Rankings for 2018 Released
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:48 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:48 pm to LSU Patrick
Wtf does that have to do with the talent he's inherited and how he underachieved last year based on overall roster talent? And what does your comment have to do with the fact that this shows anything less than 10 wins this year is a disappointment?
It's not an attack on Eaux it's just a roster grade based on recruiting rankings. The wins and losses speak for themselves. Nobody needs to prop up or tear down Eaux here. Just focus on the results last season and at the end of this year and we can evaluate where he's got this thing going
It's not an attack on Eaux it's just a roster grade based on recruiting rankings. The wins and losses speak for themselves. Nobody needs to prop up or tear down Eaux here. Just focus on the results last season and at the end of this year and we can evaluate where he's got this thing going
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:53 pm to ROPO
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Did you read the rest of his post "...where most of our good players were Freshmen and in some cases, sophomores."
That's not true either.
Here's our depth chart from last year:
Offense
QB: Etling (Sr.)
RB: Guice (Jr.)
WR: Chark (Sr.) Gage (Sr.) Davis/Anderson (So.)
TE/HB: Moreau (Jr.)
OL: Weathersby (Jr.) Charles (Fr.) Clapp (RS Jr.) Brumfield (Jr.) Malone (Sr.) Ingram (Fr.)
Total: 3 underclassman
Defense
DL: Lawrence (So.) Gilmore (Sr.) Lac (Sr.)
LB: Key (Jr.) Alexander (Sr.) White (So.) Thompson (Sr.)
DB: Jackson (Jr.) Battle (Jr.) Delpit (Fr.) Toliver (Jr.)/Greedy (Fr.)
Total: 4 underclassman
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:53 pm to TheCaterpillar
I think everyone eventually decided on 10-2. I can't tell you how many dumb threads were started about how if we weren't in there playoffs then people that thought 10-2 was acceptable that they were "the problem". 
OP... Yes. We have tons of talent. Let's hope the coaches can continue to get the most out of them.
OP... Yes. We have tons of talent. Let's hope the coaches can continue to get the most out of them.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:58 pm to Lester Earl
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even more reason why this list is pointless.
It's hard to say the list is pointless when the teams at the top of these lists are the teams constantly in the playoffs and playing for championships. That's not just a coincidence.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:58 pm to PaperTiger
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I can't tell you how many dumb threads were started about how if we weren't in there playoffs then people that thought 10-2 was acceptable that they were "the problem".
You've got to have a link to at least one of these threads. We'd love to see it.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:00 pm to UpToPar
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It's hard to say the list is pointless when the teams at the top of these lists are the teams constantly in the playoffs and playing for championships. That's not just a coincidence.
yes like FSU and USC and Michigan
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:03 pm to Lester Earl
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yes like FSU and USC and Michigan
And Alabama, UGA, tOSU and Clemson...I mean...
Oklahoma might not be high up on the lists, but, they are very high up against the competition they compete with as well (B12).
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:04 pm to UpToPar
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Weathersby
4 Star, undrafted
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Clapp
4 Star, 7th RD pick
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Gilmore
4 star, undrafted
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Herron
5 star, undrafted
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Toliver
5 Star, undrafted
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Alexander
Thompson
Lacatoure
All undrafted
Etling- 7th Rd pick
Notice the the sentence that you quoted... most of our GOOD players were underclassmen. Good. Players.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:04 pm to Lester Earl
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yes like FSU and USC and Michigan
You're smarter than this, I hope.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:05 pm to thunderbird1100
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And Alabama, UGA, tOSU and Clemson...I mean...
Point is, you don't simply beat teams because you are ranked ahead of them on this list. It offers no context. Most importantly, age of your roster.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:06 pm to UpToPar
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You're smarter than this, I hope.
You're telling us any team ranked above another should beat that team. Is that not what you said in your first post?
Did You leave teams like USC and FSU and Tenn (13
) on purpose or no?This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Point is, you don't simply beat teams because you are ranked ahead of them on this list. It offers no context. Most importantly, age of your roster.
Talent is certainly a prerequisite to being elite, though. No list is perfect, but it's a great starting point.
You can have talent and stink (FSU, Tennessee); but you cant have little talent and be elite and make the playoffs.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Notice the the sentence that you quoted... most of our GOOD players were underclassmen. Good. Players.
Chark? Guice? Jackson? Lac? Brumfield?
I'll give you White, Greedy, Lawrence and Delpit, but if our upperclassman were so bad, why couldn't our talented underclassmen beat them out?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:09 pm to TigahTeeth
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I don’t believe UGA and USC have more talent than LSU.
You're entitled to believe what you want but you are dead arse wrong...especially about UGA!
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:09 pm to UpToPar
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but if our upperclassman were so bad, why couldn't our talented underclassmen beat them out?
This has been a mystery here for over a decade, it's not new. Part of it has to do with intangibles beyond raw talent
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:09 pm to UpToPar
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There’s NO reason we shouldn’t go 10-2 in the regular season.
Well there is one reason and it's not players or talent. I'm sure if you think you'll get it.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:09 pm to thunderbird1100
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Talent is certainly a prerequisite to being elite, though. No list is perfect, but it's a great starting point.
You can have talent and stink (FSU, Tennessee); but you cant have little talent and be elite and make the playoffs.
my beef with the OP is not the list itself, its the author alluding to the point that we should beat every team behind us in this list simply because we are higher on this list.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:09 pm to Lester Earl
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You're telling us any team ranked above another should beat that team. Is that not what you said in your first post?
No, my first post was to show that talent cannot be used as an excuse for not winning 10 games this year.
Again, I hope you're smarter than this.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:12 pm to Lester Earl
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my beef with the OP is not the list itself,
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even more reason why this list is pointless.
Make up your mind.Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:13 pm to UpToPar
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but if our upperclassman were so bad, why couldn't our talented underclassmen beat them out?
Coaches like accountability & maturity.
For instance go back to last year, Lacatoure vs Tyler Shelvin. Etling vs any of our FR QB. Gage over most of our WR corps. Could do this all day. Sometimes young players just aren't ready. It doesnt mean they aren't more talented.
why did Greedy Williams redshirt? Why didnt Devin White start as as FR....on and on
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