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21 Years Ago Today - Carlos Groves (Tennessee) Lucky Day vs. Shaq
Posted on 3/13/13 at 8:07 am
Posted on 3/13/13 at 8:07 am
March 13, 1992 - Shaq gets pulled from behind while going in for a dunk vs. Tennessee in SEC basketball tournament. Carlos Groves is still alive today, only because Shaq missed with the elbow that he threw. It was the point where Shaq finally reached his limit on opponents' intentional fouls - to put him on the free throw line.
Dale Brown rushed the court to come to Shaq's aid and was criticized for being overly physical with some Tennessee players. To this day, Dale Brown can never be questioned for his support and defense of his players.
I can't find a video of the Shaq - Groves altercation, so this will have to do.
Shaq Highlight Video
(One of those sports fights I'll never forget, as I was in Woman's Hospital for the birth of my youngest son. You could hear the hollering of all the "new dad's" throughout the hospital.)
Dale Brown rushed the court to come to Shaq's aid and was criticized for being overly physical with some Tennessee players. To this day, Dale Brown can never be questioned for his support and defense of his players.
I can't find a video of the Shaq - Groves altercation, so this will have to do.
Shaq Highlight Video
(One of those sports fights I'll never forget, as I was in Woman's Hospital for the birth of my youngest son. You could hear the hollering of all the "new dad's" throughout the hospital.)
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 8:21 am to LSUGoose
I was there in person. One of the most hostile enviornments I've ever witnessed. It galled me that Tennessee came out of that as some "victim". Tennessee had two of the biggest POS in SEC history in Carlus Groves and Steve Rivers.O'Neal was schooling Groves all night like the punk he was. Up 73-51 O'Neal wheeled for a dunk and Groves just ran behind him and tried to tackle him.No not just keeping him from scoring, full body hold.
Remember Groves knocked Vernell Singleton down on a breakway the year before in Baton Rouge.The Birmingham Civic Center was going absolutely nuts.I had visions of the 1972 Ohio State-Minnesota game when fans stormed the court in Minneapolis and attacked Ohio State players. I was in the lower section behind LSU's bench and ran down behind "just in case". (in fact, if you knew who the heck I was you could see me in the background in some of the ESPN and CNN highlights.
But whereas Dale's frustration boiled over and him running out to the court, Tennessee was all about fighting. Yet somehow the crowd backed Tennessee. Never understood that.
Growing up for Vandy I always hated Tennessee and that night my sheer 'real' hatred for those worthless bastards was entrenched forever.
Remember Groves knocked Vernell Singleton down on a breakway the year before in Baton Rouge.The Birmingham Civic Center was going absolutely nuts.I had visions of the 1972 Ohio State-Minnesota game when fans stormed the court in Minneapolis and attacked Ohio State players. I was in the lower section behind LSU's bench and ran down behind "just in case". (in fact, if you knew who the heck I was you could see me in the background in some of the ESPN and CNN highlights.
But whereas Dale's frustration boiled over and him running out to the court, Tennessee was all about fighting. Yet somehow the crowd backed Tennessee. Never understood that.
Growing up for Vandy I always hated Tennessee and that night my sheer 'real' hatred for those worthless bastards was entrenched forever.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 8:26 am to LSUGoose
I remember that day fairly well. I remember in the post game press conferences Dale Brown was all but saying, "This is why Shaq doesn't need to come back to college for another year."
Of course, Shaq was going to leave regardless.
Of course, Shaq was going to leave regardless.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 8:37 am to Choupique19
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I remember that day fairly well. I remember in the post game press conferences Dale Brown was all but saying, "This is why Shaq doesn't need to come back to college for another year."
Well the league had never seen a hack a Shaq type philosophy. Neither had the refs. It was one of the main reasons Daddy Dale pushed him on the Pro's. He was very vocal about this issue.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:19 am to LSUGoose
I"ve never understood that about basketball, in the closing minutes/seconds of a close game, the losing team intentionally fouls the team with the ball. Why is that not called an intentional foul? Give the team the free throw(s) AND the ball.
I just can't get into a game where breaking the rules (fouling) is such a big part of the game.
I just can't get into a game where breaking the rules (fouling) is such a big part of the game.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
I mean the rule says that in order for it to be intentional there has to be no legitimate play on the ball (at least that is/was one of the stipulations). Most of the time they just swat at the ball. Intent calls have no business in any sport (I'm looking at you CFB with your ejections for the intent of targeting).
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:24 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why is that not called an intentional foul? Give the team the free throw(s) AND the ball.
Completely agree. Everyone hates the end of basketball games for this reason.
But the draw back is so many games would end at 35 seconds left because a team could just hold the ball and run out the clock. Doesn't seem to hurt football though.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:32 am to I-59 Tiger
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The Birmingham Civic Center was going absolutely nuts
I was in the Tiger Band at that time and was there. They were calling Dale, "Woody!" "Woody!" (Woody Hayes) We were booed everywhere and during the next game against Kentucky some of their fans (including kids) were throwing crap at us.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:36 am to LSUGoose
Great video. 
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:41 am to LSUGoose
damn, i want to see this.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 9:45 am to LSUGoose
I've seen the video on youtube before. I can't find it right now, but I found this....
Worst call ever?
Worst call ever?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:16 am to Choupique19
I found the video, unfortunately this is what it says:
quote:
"LSU vs Tennessee- 1992 SEC ..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by XOS Technologies, Inc. d/b/a XOS Digital.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:20 am to LSUGoose
Tennessee doing "thug" things to Rohan Davey's knee says hi.
Boom on the Vol nation...yeah i said Vol nation, because the state of Tennessee has zero talent so they have to go nationwide to get thugs.
Boom on the Vol nation...yeah i said Vol nation, because the state of Tennessee has zero talent so they have to go nationwide to get thugs.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:53 am to LSUGoose
I have the video, I will find it and upload it and come and post it within the next couple of days!!
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:31 am to LSUGoose
Lsu got screwed by the refs twice at the end of that season. The refs were letting shaq get beat up and other teams knew it. The two biggest examples are the horrible call at the end of the arkansas game that costs us the regular season sec championship, then the bs in the tennessee game that led to the fight that got shaq suspended for the sec tournament championship game. Those two things messed up our ncaa seeding enough that we had to play indiana.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:11 pm to LSUGoose
I remember watching that game on tv to this day. I was one pissed off kid.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:32 pm to T
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Lsu got screwed by the refs twice at the end of that season. The refs were letting shaq get beat up and other teams knew it. The two biggest examples are the horrible call at the end of the arkansas game that costs us the regular season sec championship, then the bs in the tennessee game that led to the fight that got shaq suspended for the sec tournament championship game. Those two things messed up our ncaa seeding enough that we had to play indiana.
The ending of that Arkansas game was the worst.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:10 pm to LSUGoose
I was at that game & remember it well.
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