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re: 2015: Finished 10*-3 and the AD attempted to fire the head coach

Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:46 pm to
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he offense needs to improve. No questions about it. However a shite ton of things went against us on the offensive side of the ball this year. The OL injuries being the biggest. Which, when you throw in with all the new players, new QB coming in late, that compounds itself into a huge problem. I already said we need changes on that side the ball, starting with the WR coaches.


So expectations were exceeded as long as you lower them before the start of the season. Yeah, you've already said that.

It's no less stupid now than it was 2 minutes ago.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:47 pm to
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So, LSU is exceeding the lowered expectations that were set in Orgeron's first year?




Miles lowered the expectations his last few years. These expectations of O come with the territory of replacing a coach who you had to fire. Your schools all time winningest coach.

LSU performed like a school in its first year after firing a coach. In year 2, we saw improvement. Year 3, continue to trend up.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Acceptable doesn't not equal exceeding expectations. Well done proving your own point to be wrong.




Im not the one crawfishing from my own words
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8089 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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the offense needs to improve.

Do you think it will? I'm not trolling or trying to 'trap' you -- I'm curious.

I do not, despite better talent and a senior QB. That's why I'm unhappy. I did not imagine Orgeron would stand pat on offense, but that's what all indications point to: status quo for next year with cosmetic changes coming.

It looks like one WR coach gets replaced by a "QB coach" who has no college coaching experience, per the current rumors.

Regarding that senior QB... I feel that Burrow would have been a stone-cold-killer in Clemson's offense. Give Burrow that kind of system and he's a monster, IMO. Instead... well...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Miles lowered the expectations his last few years. These expectations of O come with the territory of replacing a coach who you had to fire. Your schools all time winningest coach.




Getting fired for 10-8-9 win seasons is the opposite of lowering expectations.

quote:

LSU performed like a school in its first year after firing a coach. In year 2, we saw improvement. Year 3, continue to trend up.


Year two saw regression on both offense and defense. It's also status quo for the record. The only thing that is improved is the recruiting class, in December.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
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So expectations were exceeded as long as you lower them before the start of the season. Yeah, you've already said that.




never change from being the low IQ poster that cannot comprehend anything.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:50 pm to
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Im not the one crawfishing from my own words


Saying less than 9 wins is unacceptable in no way makes 9-3 "exceeding expectations".

Color me shocked that you're making monumental logical leaps in order to form a straw man argument, yet again.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:50 pm to
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Trending up? 9-3 with a dubious offense is 'trending up' for LSU? That sounds like the status quo, actually.



Apparently, Miles' only real flaw was not putting pressure on the media. Had he hired one of the local good ole radio boys to troll the rant and use conflicts of interest regarding his coaching staff's family and "objective" reporter's marriage, he'd have been untouchable with a national title and another attempt for a second.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Do you think it will? I'm not trolling or trying to 'trap' you -- I'm curious.



of course it will. You return every relevant player on offense, after having new players scattered all over this year, with an OL that couldnt stay healthy, with a QB that came into the program in july.

You have an offseason to get a healthy offensive line with additions of other new players that can help (biggest thing)

You bring in RBs that will help the talent pool at that position
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:52 pm to
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never change from being the low IQ poster that cannot comprehend anything.


Classic. Get called on your bullshite and the standard Lester response of "well, you just don't understand" comes out.

Your posts never fail to deliver the stupid, Earl.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Saying less than 9 wins is unacceptable in no way makes 9-3 "exceeding expectations".

Color me shocked that you're making monumental logical leaps in order to form a straw man argument, yet again.




It's hard to take you seriously when you can't even own your own words. and here you are, crying like its doomsday.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:55 pm to
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It's hard to take you seriously when you can't even own your own words. and here you are, crying like its doomsday.


I've owned my words.

Less than 9-3 is unacceptable. That makes 9-3 the minimum expectation. Tell me Earl, what does that make the win total that would be "exceeding" the expectation.

I'll wait for you to punch it into your calculator.

This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Classic. Get called on your bullshite and the standard Lester response of "well, you just don't understand" comes out.




It was a very simple concept, and you didn't understand it. What the frick do you want me to say


I dont mind "being called on my bullshite" but if you cant understand my concise point then dont waste my time with your tough guy routine.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66829 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:56 pm to
It’s hard to take you seriously when you consider

10-3 10-3 8-5 9-3 8-4 9-4 9-3*

“Upward trajectory”

It was years hearing about how Les was holding the offense back.


To spend 2 years without Les and the offense still sucks, I dont Really think you get excuses andmore.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:56 pm to
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I've owned my words.

Less than 9-3 is unacceptabl



soooooo 9-3 is.....acceptable?

how does this work?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:57 pm to
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It was a very simple concept, and you didn't understand it. What the frick do you want me to say


I dont mind "being called on my bullshite" but if you cant understand my concise point then dont waste my time with your tough guy routine.




Your "concise point" has been torn to shreds in 1 post.

You're a joke Earl. It's time for you to own that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66829 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:57 pm to
Acceptable not good or great.

Do you go to restaurants that serve “acceptable” food very often?

How many times would You watch an acceptable Movie?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43927 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:58 pm to
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soooooo 9-3 is.....acceptable?

how does this work?


Yes, this is exactly how the rest of us view things Earl. Meeting minimum expectations is never something to be celebrated.

Does your boss give you that 10 cent raise you've been expecting for doing the bare minimum? No, no he doesn't.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278667 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:59 pm to
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t’s hard to take you seriously when you consider

10-3 10-3 8-5 9-3 8-4 9-4 9-3*

“Upward trajectory”

It was years hearing about how Les was holding the offense back.


To spend 2 years without Les and the offense still sucks, I dont Really think you get excuses andmore.



Sammy, you think all wins and losses are the same. Does anything more have to be said about how fricking stupid you are?, No one takes you seriously with this shite. You are by far the dumbest fricking person I interact with on this board.

if this were a talk in real life id have you crawling back to your mommy crying. So idiotic and irrational
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66829 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:00 pm to
Idk I find most sports talks in real life go better

You just yell at each other and then get over it.

Online arguments are limited, and pettier.

Now if you’re saying last year’s 9-4 was sooooooo ducking bad that this year’s 9-3 is huuuuuge improvement I get That’s j wouldn’t say I whole heartedly Agree but I hnderstand Your point.

But I don’t think expectations of the program have been exceeded just expectations of O.

I dont Want the best LSU that O can give us, I want the best LSU.

The pressure is still on O. This isn’t something he can keep doing.

This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 3:05 pm
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