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re: 1984 FB - LSU at Florida - Arnsparger's first game as coach

Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22355 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Arnsbarger
Undoubtedly, the most underrated LSU coach in the modern era. There was something different about his teams.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26329 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:22 pm to
LSU didn't play that well at Florida, but even a tie against a highly ranked Florida team was a welcome respite after 1983 when the Tigers failed to win a conference game.

That pathetic last minute FG attempt by Juan Betanzos literally turned my stomach. Dis-GUST-ing!!!
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
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26329 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:27 pm to
LSU was SEC champions in 1984, and played in the Sugar Bowl v. Nebraska. Florida was ineligible for championship status, and postseason play that year.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2356 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 9:49 pm to
One of the 1st games I remember as a kid, not much of the actual game but how happy my dad was while watching. I can vividly recall asking ‘Wouldn’t it have been better if they won?’ He said ‘Yeah, but things are looking up.’
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:09 pm to
JUAN " PEG LEG" BETANZOS we called him
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 10:28 pm to
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2 years later in 86 went to Gainesville. Tigers took that one 28-17. Game was a blur but it was hot as hell.




yup. day game. was not on TV. we listened on radio as always
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3184 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:04 pm to
Actually, it was on TV. My next door neighbor had one of those 15 foot wide satellite dishes installed that week. My neighbor drove by, stopped, and asked when our neighbor got the dish.

We went inside, watched it with no sound.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:11 pm to
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Actually, it was on TV.


not the 1986 game on cable. was not on ABC, CBS, NBC or espn or wtbs.

tigervision is not regular TV that is PPV.

we also watched LSU-UGA in 86 on crappy tigervision PPV
This post was edited on 8/18/22 at 11:17 pm
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
3134 posts
Posted on 8/18/22 at 11:11 pm to
So I was watching this and I noticed that FL fans really haven’t evolved much over the past 40 years. Saw a lot of mullets and tank tops and I still see that in their stadium
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:14 am to
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Great coach, but he refused to interview Steve Spurrier as his replacement. Then he quickly became AD at the U of Florida and guess who he hired as Head Coach?? Yes Steve Spurrier.
Just, no.

Look at the timeline.

This is a myth that needs to die.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3289 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 5:10 am to
I’m with you. It’s amazing how this myth won’t die. Arnsparger was ready to retire from coaching. He was offered AD/head coach deal but didn’t want it. He knew that LSU had whole team coming back and told the administration if you don’t make major changes can win National Championship next year. Archers first year 10-1-1 with a tie against Ohio State and loss to Alabama in a year LSU was better than them. Finished in top 5. Arnsparger never tried to screw LSU as so many fans want to believe.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5709 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:09 am to
Bill Arnsparger was definitely a very good coach, but 2 things I will always remember 0-3 in bowl games and the whole Florida fiasco,even after Steve Myers called him out and he denied it.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:01 am to
I was there.

Thanks Juan!
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Arnsparger was one of the best, true coaches we ever had and we apparently didn't appreciate him enough when he was here.


He was a great defensive mind, didn't care much for the recruiting part of the game and claimed not to like the politics but played it pretty well.

He had a curious approach to bowl preparation and LSU never won any of the 3 bowls he coached....the 85 Liberty Bowl may have been one of the worst bowl performances in my lifetime - and my lifetime if over 50 years.
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
2778 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:19 pm to
Loved Arnsparger … Ramsey Dadar , Henry Thomas , Bill Elko. On and on Bad asses too many to remember.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1759 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:21 pm to
I want to say that Juan may have been all SEC the year before and went in the toilet that year. If I remember correctly he was eventually replaced by Ronnie Lewis. A year or two later same thing happened to Lewis and he was replaced by Browndyke.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3203 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:41 pm to
Dardar and Elko played for Stovall.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
9000 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:50 pm to
I was younger but remember one of the kickers threw up the double birds to the Student section. Forget which one but my buddy had the picture hanging in his locker from the Advocate.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Actually, it was on TV


Not on live TV. Florida was on probation in 1986 and ineligible for live TV.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Great coach, but he refused to interview Steve Spurrier as his replacement. Then he quickly became AD at the U of Florida and guess who he hired as Head Coach?? Yes Steve Spurrier.


That's no where near how all of that happened. Not even close. Arnsparger didn't interview anyone. Spurrier did get an interview but wasn't highly regarded at the time. Keep in mind that at the same time Alabama,Southern Cal and Texas had job openings at didn't even interview him.Evidently they felt Bill Curry,David McWilliams and Larry Smith were better coaches than Spurrier.

Arnsparger had an ego the size of I-10. After Galen Hall was forced out during the 1989 season, Arnsparger wanted to make Gary Darnell full time head coach instead of interim. He didn't want Spurrier. Their board of supervisors,or whatever its called, told him if you don't hire Spurrier you're gone.

Stop with this Arnsparger/Spurrier conspriacy. ITS NOT TRUE!
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 1:15 pm
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