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13 pass attempts of 20+ yards against Auburn is off the charts

Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:55 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:55 am
13 pass attempts of 20+ yards against Auburn is off the charts. Coach E is breaking new ground with the long ball. Burrow has been accurate on these long tosses to the extent that there have been no picks or near-picks on them. A few nice completions. And some very helpful Pass Interference calls.

First Qtr
9:28 30 Comp
9:07 29 Inc
8:50 27 Inc
4:47 28 Inc

2nd Qtr
12:16 30 Comp
10:52 23 Inc
5:43 29 Inc

3rd Qtr
1:37 24 Inc

4th Qtr
8:26 21 TD Dillon
4:54 29 Flag PI
2:31 26 Inc
1:22 20 Inc
1:16 28 Flag PI


Looks to me like 55 or so 20+ yard passes per season is the norm (about 4 20+ attempts per game). Sam Darnold had the most I can find last season, with 92 (about 6 1/2 per game).

Tua Whatshisname has only had eight 20+ yard passes this season - 2.6 per game. (Link below). Tua had 4 in regulation the Natty last year, and 1 more in overtime.

Tua's 2018 chart:
LINK /


Here's a sampling of QB's 20+ passes from 2017, and link to passing charts:
Sam Darnold 94
Lamar Jackson 72
Josh Rosen 46
JT Barrett 56

LINK
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 8:58 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26804 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:57 am to
Is that stat measuring where the receiver was at the time of the throw?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:58 am to
This is from the line of scrimmage to where the receiver first touches the ball - NO yards after catch

Good question
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 9:01 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:58 am to
This again

...im just playing. We did sling the ball around against auburn. Hopefully that continues
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4452 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:59 am to
So even though there were a good number of imcompletions, all those downfield throws caused us to get those PI calls on the last drive. Those CBs were stressed and worn out and grasping in desperation.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:02 am to
quote:

This again

...im just playing. We did sling the ball around against auburn. Hopefully that continues


You guys (rightfully) demanded stats - so here you go :)
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:06 am to
Coach E is calling them, but I know O has been a proponent of keeping a team honest with deep passes for awhile. He's cited his time with Payton/the Saints for having to keep them honest to get guys out of the box.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:09 am to
I read some where that O and E met with Sean P to discuss passing game and he told them that you want to take 6-8 big shots in a game. I just hope we continue the offense that is starting to emerge and out big shots aren't 9 routes on the sidelines.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81645 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:10 am to
This doesn't stop The Scoreboard run, run, pass, punt complaints
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28372 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:11 am to
I'm COMPLETELY ok with the deep shots. But right now, LSU's receivers are getting very little separation. The only completely wide open throw Burrow had all day was the sideline route to Jefferson. The pass to Dillion took an absolute dime from Burrow to make it happen.

I love throwing the deep ball. But I think they have to get a little more creative in the scheme to bust some guys wide open. Unfortunately, LSU just doesn't have that blazer on this year's team who can simply outrun DB's
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:

So even though there were a good number of imcompletions, all those downfield throws caused us to get those PI calls on the last drive. Those CBs were stressed and worn out and grasping in desperation.


Agree. And, most of the scoring against Auburn was a direct result or substantially aided by these long passes.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 9:13 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63032 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:14 am to
I think you need to remove the passes that resulted in PI or another penalty. Those passes are not included in pass charts, as far as I can tell (except where the pass was caught and/or penalty was declined).
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
5815 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:15 am to
3-13 plus 2 PI. Is that good? Essentially 5-15. 33% success rate.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:16 am to
quote:

This doesn't stop The Scoreboard run, run, pass, punt complaints


I've read that complaining can aid the digestion of greasy foods. So, it's a good thing for some of tham.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:18 am to
quote:

I think you need to remove the passes that resulted in PI or another penalty. Those passes are not included in pass charts, as far as I can tell (except where the pass was caught and/or penalty was declined).


So, eleven 20+ attempts - still off the charts.

[but I don't want to ignore the PI penalties - they can be game breakers]
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 9:22 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84900 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:21 am to
quote:

You guys (rightfully) demanded stats - so here you go :)




Now you've got 129 teams left to do.

Thanks for tallying it up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84900 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:23 am to
quote:


3-13 plus 2 PI. Is that good? Essentially 5-15. 33% success rate.


3/11 + 2PI. That's pretty solid all things considered.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63032 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:26 am to
quote:

So, eleven 20+ attempts - still off the charts.


Agreed

quote:

[but I don't want to ignore the PI penalties - they can be game breakers]


Also agreed, I'm just talking about the comparison part of your post. I doubt PI is typically a huge issue in games, but apples to apples and all that.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Now you've got 129 teams left to do.

Thanks for tallying it up.


I'll concede that there may be a qb out west or in Hawaii or somewhere with numbers like this. But if so, they are also WAY off the charts.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26804 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 9:29 am to
quote:

3-13 plus 2 PI. Is that good? Essentially 5-15. 33% success rate.


What's the national completion percentage for this stat? I don't know.

QB completion percentages are padded with screens and short throws, so I would imagine 20-plus yard throws are in the 30 percent range.
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