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re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.

Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:56 am to
All you’ve done is confessed to not watching basketball again. Uzan was Houston’s PG and if you watched them you’d know that. Now it makes sense why you thought they’ve been bad on D the last few years.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 11:59 am
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:11 pm to
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If you didn't, why did you feel the need to comment?
This entire Thomas discussion is a waste of time. That's the point. Nobody gives a shite and wishes you would stop. Read the room.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:09 pm to
Wrong. So why would Sampson list all of the previous great PGs as I’ve quoted before Thomas…and list Flemings….and not Uzan…if Uzan was his PG??? Uzan was a combo guard most definitely not a PG and every metric out there will say otherwise. Flemings(26.3%) had a much higher usage rate as Uzan(19.3%). You are so lost in this. Even when you are flat out wrong and given plenty of evidence you will continue to bury yourself. I’m out.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:10 pm to
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This entire Thomas discussion is a waste of time. That's the point. Nobody gives a shite and wishes you would stop. Read the room.


Don’t make stupid comments that are inaccurate and then double down on them. I’m done though don’t you worry.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:16 pm to
As usual you’re just making shite up. You don’t watch basketball, you never watched a Houston game which is why you don’t know who played where and don’t know they’re one of the top defensive teams in the country every year. And BTW Javonte Smart and Skylar Mays are both considered PGs on their profiles too but if you watched LSU (you don’t) you’d know one was the PG when they played together here.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:30 pm to
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As usual you’re just making shite up



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You don’t watch basketball



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you never watched a Houston game


I only live right next door, and coached a former player in Sampson(and Will Wade's) program, but you know it all buddy.

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Javonte Smart and Skylar Mays are both considered PGs on their profiles


So again...I'll leave you with this...

Why would Sampson relate Thomas to Flemings and not Uzan as a PG if he wasn't his PG???

Also...why would a "PG" shoot almost 6 3's a game???

Nevermind, It's really not worth it at this point. You are dug in.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:34 pm to
You’ve already been exposed for being dishonest about your “history” around that area so you just saying you do something while all the evidence points to you not doing it isn’t a credible argument. And again you continue to misuse and add context that doesn’t exist to coach speak, pretending it’s evidence. Anyone, including you, wants to see who the PG at Houston was the last 2 seasons, there are a ton of their games on YouTube that proves you’re full of it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:37 pm to
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Also...why would a "PG" shoot almost 6 3's a game???



This is logic and an actual argument to you. LSU has had several PGs who’ve shot 3s at that rate or higher including Smart. Again you don’t watch basketball and don’t know what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:45 pm to
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This is logic and an actual argument to you. LSU has had several PGs who’ve shot 3s at that rate or higher. Again you don’t watch basketball and don’t know what you’re talking about.



Right, I don't expect you to understand. You still can't explain why Sampson said Flemings was his PG and you dismiss every piece of information you get because you must know more than me and everyone else out there. You're not making any arguments to counter any of my talking points which would be usage rate, assists, all that stuff. You are set in your ways and there's nothing that me or the head coach of the team could say apparently that would change your mind. Sampson took naps during the games too, I guess he didn't watch either.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:55 pm to
No I dismiss comments taken out of context to mean something they don’t but that has zero bearing on your standard which was proven false yet again.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Sampson took naps during the games too


Perfect example of your arguments.

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I guess


Basically sums up everything you say
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:02 pm to
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You’ve already been exposed for being dishonest about your “history” around that area so you just saying you do something while all the evidence points to you not doing it isn’t a credible argument. And again you continue to misuse and add context that doesn’t exist to coach speak, pretending it’s evidence. Anyone, including you, wants to see who the PG at Houston was the last 2 seasons, there are a ton of their games on YouTube that proves you’re full of it.


I've actually been to alot of games, as I've said previously I had some ties to the program. You say it's coach speak to fit your argument, crazy assumption to know what's coach speak and what isn't. Direct quotes flagged by you as coach speak to fit your narrative. Again, alot of these numbers im giving you prove my point...as the point guard is the primary ball handler...which also explains the usage and assists numbers. Yet you sit here and continue to deny...you actually are correct from the previous year, he did fill that role with Shead leaving...but when Flemings arrived, he got bumped to the wing...which is also why he shot more 3's because he was coming off more screens and had the ball less. He ran from the top some, but that belonged mostly to Flemings...which is why Sampson called him the point guard. See, if you out all these things together, you'll arrive to your answer..yet you refuse. All good man, I'm sure people revere your knowledge on this board.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:20 pm to
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I've actually been to alot of games, as I've said previously I had some ties to the program.


If this is the case you’re intentionally making false statements. Again the video of the games where if you’d actually watched showed what I said.

Now let’s use the only “facts” or standards you tried to use but failed.

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Also...why would a "PG" shoot almost 6 3's a game???


Other PGs you mentioned for that team have taken more.

-Sasser- 6.8 3s attempted per game
- Cryer (not a PG)- 7.8 3s per game

You contradicted yourself by using Shead and Cryer who played together but you claim were both PGs, proving my point.

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every metric out there will say otherwise. Flemings(26.3%) had a much higher usage rate as Uzan(19.3%).


- Cam Thomas
- Trendon Watford

Both had higher usage rates than our PGs so there goes your other standard. You obviously don’t even know what the stat means.

Nothing you’ve said is based on fact. You’re panicked and ignorant
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1723 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:35 pm to
Wrong.

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Other PGs you mentioned for that team have taken more.

-Sasser- 6.8 3s attempted per game
- Cryer (not a PG)- 7.8 3s per game


Never said they were Point Guards, I said they were "smaller, weaker defenders". That was in context with Thomas being undersized. Which was one of the reason's you said he'd come off the bench. Let's revisit.

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You're gonna keep an all-conference player who has averaged almost 15ppg and 5asts...for his career....to come off the bench? All the while a 6'1 Cryer, Shead, Sasser, all 3 of them smaller, "weaker defenders"... have not only started....but LEAD THE TEAM IN SCORING the past several years?


You are making guesses based on what? You are lost.


Where did I mention their positions? Only about size. You made this up. To fit a narrative.

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- Cam Thomas
- Trendon Watford

Both had higher usage rates than our PGs so there goes your other standard. You obviously don’t even know what the stat means.

Nothing you’ve said is based on fact. You’re panicked and ignorant


This is also a reason why I've been against Will Wade's style of play. Same thing with Smart and Mays. He runs his offenses through his best players, not necessarily a consistent system through a point guard. Which is why usage is all over the place. As you say, context matters.


At almost 40, I'm still actively playing in leagues and coaching my kids/former players. You should get a game together and I'll make the 3 hour drive and show you what a PG is.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:36 pm to
Usage rate LSU 2025-26 season

-Michael Nwoko -27.7%
- DJ Thomas - 25.9%

Jwill logic “Micheal Nwoko was LSU’s PG last season”


ROTFL
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
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I said they were "smaller, weaker defenders".



Also false just like the rest of that post
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:43 pm to
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At almost 40, I'm still actively playing in leagues and coaching my kids/former players. You should get a game together and I'll make the 3 hour drive and show you what a PG is.



Yea I’m too old, can’t run anymore. Reffed a camp this weekend (31 games) and I’m just able to walk correctly today
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
2183 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 3:08 pm to
can the admins put these 2 in timeout please. They continually hijack and derail every basketball thread with their own personal bs.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1769 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:45 pm to
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You’re panicked and ignorant


topic is basketball. please don't do this to every thread
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70952 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:31 pm to
topic is basketball. please don't do this to every thread
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