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Too many fans melt every year over one player, did it really matter in 19, 20, or 21?

Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:41 am
I’m embarrassed for you guys. One player does not make a championship. LSU loss a few top recruits during Burrow’s time at LSU. Made no fricking difference. Be smart enough to recruit and keep the right players. And Kelly is!
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10171 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:53 am to
Of course it doesn't matter but damn it is hilarious to read every year
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:56 am to
quote:

One player does not make a championship.


Joe Burrow.

But in general, I agree.
Posted by ChuckUFarley
Up in heh!
Member since Jun 2022
401 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:56 am to
This is absolutely true. Most of the time the only difference in a 5star and a 4star is poor coaching and S&C at their high schools. Often times the 4star will catch up with the 5star in a year of being in a good college program. I am always fine with a strong 4 star with something to prove. A class of 5 stars seem to bring a feeling that they will rely more on talent than the 4 or 3 star that pushes to show they are worthy.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10015 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:58 am to
Call it an overreaction. Call it whatever you want. Ricks choosing Alabama over us is very small example of why they compete for National Championships every year and we don’t. Will Ricks make or break this class? Probably not. But to act like this hasn’t been happening for the last decade and isn’t a reason for their success is just idiotic.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1658 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:03 pm to
Agreed, we get flips too. And if my memory serves me correct, when Surtain flipped last minute that left a scholarship open for Burrow to come in. Life goes on
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:17 pm to
I just laugh at these nerds who hand their emotions over to some random unproven HS kid and with it the power of LSU football over to that school 2 states over. It reeks of desperation and insecurity. Sign, don't sign, with us or against us, it really doesn't matter. But how juvenile to get all hung up on some kid who isn't even from here. Like ANY of these guys are indispensable to the BEHEMOTH that is LSU football. Just go plan B in the transfer portal and maybe you end up with a better player for 2023. OMGGGGG Muh Sky is falling because (insert name here) signed with (insert SEC rival here). Half these guys need a sedative a hobby or both.

Posted by Perrenial Powerhouse
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jan 2006
3686 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:23 pm to
Because a large portion of the LSU fan base has an inferiority complex. Nothing is ever good enough. See the pussies posting “why does Bama do this to us?” and “Saban is really out to get us!” It’s fricking pathetic, as if another coach of school is out to get LSU…LOL
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
14774 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:27 pm to
The only reason we had a scholarship available for Joe Burrow was because Alabama took a DB from us at the last minute.
Posted by 2003tigerfan
Member since Aug 2018
2026 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:28 pm to
We could land Ricks …and if he doesn’t start his freshman year…they’ll forget that he exists and will be melting over some kid in the 2024 class
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38616 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Ricks choosing Alabama over us is very small example of why they compete for National Championships every year


They don't.

quote:

Will Ricks make or break this class? Probably not. But to act like this hasn’t been happening for the last decade and isn’t a reason for their success is just idiotic.



Is there any single recruit that Alabama has taken that LSU wanted that made a quantifiable difference in national championship hopes for one team or the other?

It sucks to lose a guy you wanted. It doesn't matter in the long run unless you start losing battles for multiple players in the same class.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61211 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Call it an overreaction. Call it whatever you want. Ricks choosing Alabama over us is very small example of why they compete for National Championships every year and we don’t. Will Ricks make or break this class? Probably not. But to act like this hasn’t been happening for the last decade and isn’t a reason for their success is just idiotic.


I’m not exactly sure what you’re referring to here. I will say that winning breeds winning. It’s a lot easier for Saban to recruit now at Bama that he’s won 6 NCs and played for 2 more in his 16 years at Bama. The more Kelly wins—especially if he can win an NC relatively soon—the easier it will be for him. It’s why winning the West was so important this year. (And why I think winning our bowl game to get to 10 wins and end the season on a high note with positive vibes going into the offseason is so important).

If you’re talking about how quickly Saban was able to start reeling in #1 classes at Bama before he had all the skins on the wall, it’s partly because he’s the best recruiter in CFB history. His organizational skills, ability to evaluate, put a plan in place for his staff to execute, be the hardest worker in the business and demand the same from said staff would have been successful anywhere (and I think Kelly is right up there in all of those now finally with the resources to compete).

BUT, I don’t think Saban would have been AS success anywhere else as he has been at Bama. I don’t agree with the LSU fans lamenting that that could have been us. We certainly would have won more than the 2 we have since he left, but not 6. Because Bama fans do care more than us or any other CFB fanbase. And by “care,” I mean willingness to hand out almost unlimited money for coaches, facilities, and, maybe most importantly, players. They’ve been paying players under the table for years. Way before Saban, but I think he perfected it by having it set up in a way where he’s far enough removed to have plausible deniability. Now, they can just do it “legally.” But they have been—and probably always will be—more willing to throw money around because it’s all they have. There’s no professional sports team in the state to compete with, and Alabama football is a huge part of their identity, the biggest part of how a lot of them view their self-worth.

Fans of other teams are similar, no doubt, but not quite to that level where they will maintain it. You’ll see years where schools are so desperate that they’ll go crazy like A&M last year, but the money will dry up eventually whether due to not getting a good ROI as far as not winning championships or they will win 1 or 2 and their appetites will be satiated. For a while anyway. I don’t think Bama fans will ever be satisfied. If anything, they’ll be terrified of losing their spot at the top and pay more. It’s no coincidence that Bama is gonna beat A&M’s last class as the greatest one in CFB history when Georgia is a big favorite and only 2 games away from going back to back.

Again, I’m not sure if your post was a criticism of LSU or just a recognition of the advantage Bama has with the best coach in CFB history combined with the fan base most willing to spend money to secure players and titles. Regardless, I thank God that we have Brian Kelly navigating us through this new era of college football. Without the money to compete yearly with the top couple of teams, we need somebody with the same skills that Saban has and the ability to recruit to and clearly communicate the message of “Graduate Champions.” But not just as a catchy slogan, but genuinely mean it. He truly believe that his program will instill values and habits that will last a lifetime and develop them into men that will be successful long after they’re done with football, and that they’ll be a part of the LSU family for the rest of their lives. There’s a lot of bullshite artists that try to sell that everywhere, but the kids that we want—and their families—will be able to see through that and know that BK truly means it. I’m one of the few that still appreciate both Les and Ed, but I absolutely cannot imagine how fricked we’d be with them right now.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13447 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:03 pm to
We have a great class with a few more possible big fish left. A possible loss like this with the previous staff meant way more than it does with this one. This is year one of recruiting the foundation and using all the talent we have coming back. Looking forward to seeing these kids flourish at LSU.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:05 pm to
It’s the one on one competition for the day. Bama wins and Tigers lose. It doesn’t mean anything in the future but it’s a L for the day.

That’s why it’s sucks. Within 3 days everyone will be over it
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:38 pm to
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It’s the one on one competition for the day. Bama wins and Tigers lose. It doesn’t mean anything in the future but it’s a L for the day.



LSU beat Alabama and Saban in 2019 and 2021, both years Saban took a player LSU wanted badly. The only one on one’s that mattered were on the field. LSU fans should recognize and be proud of that, instead of acting so damn insecure!
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:53 pm to
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A class of 5 stars seem to bring a feeling that they will rely more on talent than the 4 or 3 star that pushes to show they are worthy.


Yeah. God I would hate to be like Bama, UGA, Clemson, Ohio State, with all those 5 stars they stack up and all those games they win. Who wants that am I right?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Call it an overreaction. Call it whatever you want. Ricks choosing Alabama over us is very small example of why they compete for National Championships every year and we don’t. Will Ricks make or break this class? Probably not. But to act like this hasn’t been happening for the last decade and isn’t a reason for their success is just idiotic.


Someone with some fricking sense and looking at things realistically. This is the absolute correct way to look at things. Instead, people on here will just convince themselves Ricks is a POS with character concerns that Kelly never wanted and isn’t good enough for LSU. I don’t understand this warped mentality people on this board have.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61308 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:07 pm to
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Of course it doesn't matter


We’re about to be dredging the portal for FCS CB’s. Not sure that should be exciting for anyone.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9266 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 2:11 pm to
I’ll make my point in a very short way. We lost Eli Ricks to Bama at a time when we had nothing! What did we do? Beat Bama! This guy probably won’t even see the field at Bama and will end up transferring back to LSU. Our fans are one of a kind.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Yeah. God I would hate to be like Bama, UGA, Clemson, Ohio State, with all those 5 stars they stack up and all those games they win. Who wants that am I


Chicken needs to hire mental therapist or counselor during LSU signing periods. In he last three years that Saban has flipped an LSU commit, LSU won two SEC West titles one SEC title and a national title. In that same span Saban has zero national titles titles and one SEC West title. Saban may not ever win another national title with Kelly and Kirby in the SEC.
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