re: To those of you criticizing Miles and His Word

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could not disagree more.

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of course you would

you want to disagree with those who turn their back on LSU and defend LSU when we turn our back on someone else

i don't expect you to agree. that would require logic, something i am pointing out is lacking here

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Do we know for sure he is qualified? The only thing I have seen is quotes from Benton himself saying that he is sure he will be qualified. Which is what he has said for two years now.

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In addition, he was recently at Auburn checking out what they could offer him, so before people start annointing him into sainthood, I think we need to look at that too.

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LSU better look out for LSU, because that's the only one looking out for LSU and LSU's best interests. That's the truth. Similarly, the talent out there isn't looking out for anyone but themselves and don't give two shakes about their own word.

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Exhibit A on why you guys need to quit bashing on Nick Saban....

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In addition, he was recently at Auburn checking out what they could offer him, so before people start annointing him into sainthood, I think we need to look at that too.

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doesn't whatever he did go out of the window when he is on the phone with LSU on tuesday reaffirming his committment and hearing LSU reaffirm theirs?

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IMO, the only people who can criticize JJ are the ones who have criticized LSU for the pulling of benton

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The two situations only become equal when Les Miles announces that he pulled the offer from Benton the day before Benton's first opportunity to sign . . . but that didn't happen.

LSU made an offer to Benton two years ago, and stuck to that offer. Then, when Benton didn't hold up his end of the deal, they extended the offer another year. Then, when he continued to fail to live up to the obligation he made to LSU, they extended the offer for another year. Then, on signing day, Benton made a commitment to Auburn. Until and unless Les Miles makes a statement that he withdrew Benton's offer, those are the facts of the situation. And rumors/explainations/whatever from a guy who broke his word at least twice already, and possibly a third time yesterday, will never be credible evidence for anyone with half a brain.

LSU didn't put Janzen off for a year, then put him off for another year, then screw around and create the danger of putting him off for yet a third year, and then see him change his commitment. Until and unless we do that to a recruit, there is zero similarity or comparison between that recruit's situation and DeAngelo Benton.

Anyone who would even think of making such a comparison cannot be considered rational or objective, and the only logical conclusion can be that they are trying to smear someone by making absurdly irrelevant comparisons to liken one group's actions to the unscrupulous actions of another.

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doesn't whatever he did go out of the window when he is on the phone with LSU on tuesday reaffirming his committment and hearing LSu reaffirm their?

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Sure, in as much as everything goes out the window when the other solid commits wake up on Wednesday and Thursday morning as well. It's a new day, and all is forgotten. That's the point. LSU can stay true and idealistic in an very un-idealistic world and still get screwed in the process. The recruits don't however because they have other big time programs fawning all over them ready to sweaten the pot especially at the end. Benton gave LSU his word long ago, and LSU gave him theirs, and yet it was Benton who after all the patience and opportunity LSU gave him was recently at Auburn checking for the bigger better deal.

I fashion dealing with most recruits to dealing with a gold digger you are courting and plan on marrying. They are always looking for the bigger better deal, so you better take measures to make sure you aren't the one holding the bag at the alter when they put the screws to you. You better have a backup plan.

Even if Les pulled the offer...the kid had way too many chances to improve his academics and who is to say that if he couldn't do it in a JC he could at LSU. There is a good chance he would have been on Academic Probation or kicked off the team. Randle was a more secure choice. Benton still had the chance to sign with someone else. Jackson just left us out to dry. He knew would wouldn't be able to hand out another scholarship after NSD which is why he waited until the day after. We don't need that...we will be a much better team without.

The morning od signing day? We're not talking about the two years of "waiting", the issue is pulling the plug ON THE MORNING OF SIGNING DAY....

Let me ask you something, 4444. And I have been having this argument for my brother for an hour now.

What do we really know?
That there was a phone call between LSU and Benton on Tuesday night confirming the schollie and commitment? Really? We know this because why? We only heard about the call after Benton switched and we have only heard it from Benton.

What we do know for a fact is that Benton went to Auburn recently and put in place a backup plan.

Now, why would this kid go put a backup plan in place with Auburn if he didn't get word from LSU that they might back off of him? You can glaze over it if you want, but the reality is that he has been all LSU for 2 Years, and at the last possible moment he goes to Auburn and does this? If he wanted to visit Auburn he could have done so at any time over the last 2 years.

Did RR have something to do with it? Obviously. You can't glaze that over.
Did DB get blindsided Tuesday night? Obviously no. He knew there was a good chance LSU would bail and he and his family made arrangements accordingly ahead of time.

Am I happy they pulled a schollie the night before? NO. But I am not upset, either. The chances are high that we wasn't going to qualify again and he was told soon enough so that he could go make another visit somewhere else, just in case and protect himself if worse came to worse.

They could have just led him on completely and then ripped it the night before and he would have been calling teams he had never visited the night before and he probably would have ended up not in the SEC.