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There has to a cap going forward
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:42 pm
This kind of offer is bad for college football. It will be a domino effect and next years top recruit might get 15-20 mil over 3-4 years and it will continue to grow until it gets out of hand. After one of the recruits are a bust it might slow it down if not it needs a cap. Kind of like the BK and Jimbo contracts may scare teams back to going 4-5 year contracts as they should.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:49 pm to Tigerfan53
There’s no way to cap it because this “offer” is completely outside of the purview of the NCAA. I’m not sure why this is so difficult to understand. People wanted courts and lawmakers to get involved so the NCAA couldn’t enforce their rules, now they have their wild west.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:55 pm to MOT
I think there should be a cap 10 million. The legal part is you're not limiting college athletes of how much they can make. You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:58 pm to Tiger30
So…a $10M cap from collectives while still having unlimited NIL deals from the Portnoys and Phil Knights of the world?
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:06 pm to Tiger30
quote:And who do you think has this authority?
You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:08 pm to Tigerfan53
It'll correct itself.
If he turns out to be anything less than a world beater, the booster will think twice about the amount of the next NIL deal.
If he turns out to be anything less than a world beater, the booster will think twice about the amount of the next NIL deal.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:15 pm to Tigerfan53
If you cap the players then you have to cap the coaches and then cap how much the universities can make from TV. It's not happening. The entire point is that for a century the universities profited billions while giving the players room, board and a scholarship. Hence the billion $ penalty levied against the universities.
And as the poster above asked, how is a collective cap gonna stop a billionaire from paying a kid anything they want and call it an endorsement? You can't cap what a player can make on their name, image and likeness. That's the entire point of the lawsuit. It cannot be fixed under the current model and good luck getting thousands of college kids to organize, form a union and agree to terms. And even further good luck getting the universities to break themselves in order to pay for all of it. They'd drop the sport in an instant. All of them.
And as the poster above asked, how is a collective cap gonna stop a billionaire from paying a kid anything they want and call it an endorsement? You can't cap what a player can make on their name, image and likeness. That's the entire point of the lawsuit. It cannot be fixed under the current model and good luck getting thousands of college kids to organize, form a union and agree to terms. And even further good luck getting the universities to break themselves in order to pay for all of it. They'd drop the sport in an instant. All of them.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:17 pm to Tigerfan53
without the players being unionized you won’t ever get any kind of enforceable cap
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:17 pm to Tigerfan53
Boosters will not keep recklessly spending money on 17 year olds.
If they spend that kind of money the ROI is a championship. I do not care how rich you are. Maybe Michigan, A&M, and Texas will be fine. Bama will be ok for longer because they want to keep success going (even though they haven’t won since 2017). But Bama isn’t rich, and again, boosters aren’t going to spend money indefinitely for no ROI.
If BU turns out to be a Ryan Perriloux type, they’ll eventually say frick it. NIL is still new. Guys are willing to throw money at it. Give it a couple seasons before they figure out that only one team wins a natty each year.
If they spend that kind of money the ROI is a championship. I do not care how rich you are. Maybe Michigan, A&M, and Texas will be fine. Bama will be ok for longer because they want to keep success going (even though they haven’t won since 2017). But Bama isn’t rich, and again, boosters aren’t going to spend money indefinitely for no ROI.
If BU turns out to be a Ryan Perriloux type, they’ll eventually say frick it. NIL is still new. Guys are willing to throw money at it. Give it a couple seasons before they figure out that only one team wins a natty each year.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:32 pm to MOT
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There’s no way to cap it because this “offer” is completely outside of the purview of the NCAA.
and it's different for the NFL because?
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:45 pm to Tigerfan53
It’s already out of hand. The only way back now is for more of these players to be busts or it be a cancer in the locker room. It will eventually get to a point where the ROI is not worth it to the boosters . We just don’t know what that threshold is yet.
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:54 pm to Tigerfan53
This is America jack. Trying to cap the market to make your team compete is communism lol
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:48 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Because players are paid by the team they play for in the NFL. Pretty simple.
and it's different for the NFL because?
Posted on 11/24/24 at 1:30 am to Tigerfan53
If NIL is what they want to do fine. Just open the commitment date to whenever (get rid of only 2 dates). That'll naturally cap it.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:30 am to Tigerfan53
I thought pay for play was illegal? Where is nil piece of this?
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:50 am to Tigerfan53
Only way you get a cap is by having the players form a union and go through collective bargaining. Otherwise, you run afoul of the SCOTUS rulings that gave way to situation you now have in place. With th eplayers now in the drivers' seat, not sure they would agree to unionize.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:53 am to ApexTiger
quote:1) They are employees and participate in collective bargaining
and it's different for the NFL because?
2) The NFL has a cap on team-to-player compensation, not NIL
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:01 am to Tiger30
quote:The originally proposed House settlement had a limit on collective spending, and Judge Wilken rejected it for that reason. From an antitrust law standpoint, limiting how much someone can spend is no different than limiting how much someone can make.
I think there should be a cap 10 million. The legal part is you're not limiting college athletes of how much they can make. You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:05 am
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:05 am to Gravitiger
A cap won't work. There's always a way around rules
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:08 am to logansrun
quote:It'll work if it's done thoughtfully via collective bargaining. Pro teams are not allowed to guarantee NIL compensation or endorsement money from third parties, and no team tries it because it is strictly enforced and heavily penalized.
A cap won't work. There's always a way around rules
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:26 am
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