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There has to a cap going forward

Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3155 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:42 pm
This kind of offer is bad for college football. It will be a domino effect and next years top recruit might get 15-20 mil over 3-4 years and it will continue to grow until it gets out of hand. After one of the recruits are a bust it might slow it down if not it needs a cap. Kind of like the BK and Jimbo contracts may scare teams back to going 4-5 year contracts as they should.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29429 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:49 pm to
There’s no way to cap it because this “offer” is completely outside of the purview of the NCAA. I’m not sure why this is so difficult to understand. People wanted courts and lawmakers to get involved so the NCAA couldn’t enforce their rules, now they have their wild west.
Posted by Tiger30
Fort mill south carolina
Member since Aug 2018
959 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:55 pm to
I think there should be a cap 10 million. The legal part is you're not limiting college athletes of how much they can make. You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5968 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:58 pm to
So…a $10M cap from collectives while still having unlimited NIL deals from the Portnoys and Phil Knights of the world?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29429 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:06 pm to
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You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend.
And who do you think has this authority?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75316 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:08 pm to
It'll correct itself.

If he turns out to be anything less than a world beater, the booster will think twice about the amount of the next NIL deal.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13078 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:15 pm to
If you cap the players then you have to cap the coaches and then cap how much the universities can make from TV. It's not happening. The entire point is that for a century the universities profited billions while giving the players room, board and a scholarship. Hence the billion $ penalty levied against the universities.

And as the poster above asked, how is a collective cap gonna stop a billionaire from paying a kid anything they want and call it an endorsement? You can't cap what a player can make on their name, image and likeness. That's the entire point of the lawsuit. It cannot be fixed under the current model and good luck getting thousands of college kids to organize, form a union and agree to terms. And even further good luck getting the universities to break themselves in order to pay for all of it. They'd drop the sport in an instant. All of them.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86570 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:17 pm to
without the players being unionized you won’t ever get any kind of enforceable cap
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6595 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:17 pm to
Boosters will not keep recklessly spending money on 17 year olds.

If they spend that kind of money the ROI is a championship. I do not care how rich you are. Maybe Michigan, A&M, and Texas will be fine. Bama will be ok for longer because they want to keep success going (even though they haven’t won since 2017). But Bama isn’t rich, and again, boosters aren’t going to spend money indefinitely for no ROI.

If BU turns out to be a Ryan Perriloux type, they’ll eventually say frick it. NIL is still new. Guys are willing to throw money at it. Give it a couple seasons before they figure out that only one team wins a natty each year.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54945 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:32 pm to
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There’s no way to cap it because this “offer” is completely outside of the purview of the NCAA.


and it's different for the NFL because?
Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1608 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:45 pm to
It’s already out of hand. The only way back now is for more of these players to be busts or it be a cancer in the locker room. It will eventually get to a point where the ROI is not worth it to the boosters . We just don’t know what that threshold is yet.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22374 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:54 pm to
This is America jack. Trying to cap the market to make your team compete is communism lol
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29429 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 5:48 pm to
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and it's different for the NFL because?
Because players are paid by the team they play for in the NFL. Pretty simple.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25440 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 1:30 am to
If NIL is what they want to do fine. Just open the commitment date to whenever (get rid of only 2 dates). That'll naturally cap it.

Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9716 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:30 am to
I thought pay for play was illegal? Where is nil piece of this?
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2105 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:50 am to
Only way you get a cap is by having the players form a union and go through collective bargaining. Otherwise, you run afoul of the SCOTUS rulings that gave way to situation you now have in place. With th eplayers now in the drivers' seat, not sure they would agree to unionize.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:53 am to
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and it's different for the NFL because?
1) They are employees and participate in collective bargaining

2) The NFL has a cap on team-to-player compensation, not NIL
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:01 am to
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I think there should be a cap 10 million. The legal part is you're not limiting college athletes of how much they can make. You're limited the collectives on how much they can spend
The originally proposed House settlement had a limit on collective spending, and Judge Wilken rejected it for that reason. From an antitrust law standpoint, limiting how much someone can spend is no different than limiting how much someone can make.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:05 am
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1953 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:05 am to
A cap won't work. There's always a way around rules
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:08 am to
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A cap won't work. There's always a way around rules
It'll work if it's done thoughtfully via collective bargaining. Pro teams are not allowed to guarantee NIL compensation or endorsement money from third parties, and no team tries it because it is strictly enforced and heavily penalized.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:26 am
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