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re: The Sopsher Conundrum
Posted on 10/7/18 at 10:01 pm to lsucjn
Posted on 10/7/18 at 10:01 pm to lsucjn
If Sabama is really where he wants to go then LSU should drop him and move on to players who actually want to be at LSU. I don't like taking players who actually want to be somewhere else. This isn't a good situation. A player who wants to be else where will be a liability. They won't work as hard as needed and their attitude will be shitty. And whats to stop him from playing a year and transferring. I'd rather LSU sign 2 lower rated players instead of losing 2 scholarships. I hate to lose Louisiana players to out of state schools, especially Sabama. But, when a kid wants to be somewhere else, then cut bait and recruit else where.
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Posted on 10/7/18 at 10:30 pm to Tiger on the Rag
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Always hurt
That’s ezxactly why some leave. It doesn’t work though. Ask Chris Faulk.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 1:44 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
Anytime it's a situation that the player is dictating the scenario where ish is good and his brother may never see the field is a "frick that situation", numbers are way too tight to throw away a scholarship. If LSU can't pull just ish move on, besides he said he's not going to commit until February. Never wait on a player in this type of situation. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket. If so, LSU will probably get burned.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:11 am to LesnarF5
It's all about the school. If someone wants to be at LSU, I would hope that it was to try and win a NC. It makes no sense to make a school that you supposedly love that is competitive but not quite there yet as far as the overall talent required use a scholarship on someone who probably isn't going to see the field.
We definitely shouldn't wait past the Dec signing period.
If I'm in charge, all offers if not fulfilled in the early signing period expire and require reissue based on our new needs. We can't afford what happened last yr to bite us in the arse again.
We definitely shouldn't wait past the Dec signing period.
If I'm in charge, all offers if not fulfilled in the early signing period expire and require reissue based on our new needs. We can't afford what happened last yr to bite us in the arse again.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:02 am to Ponchy Tiger
No shite Sherlock. But he isn’t signing without his bro
And we need him
And we need him
Posted on 10/8/18 at 9:31 am to steve123
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We have to start offering some guys that we may not have ranked as high if they want in.
This is the problem that landed us where we are now. Offering less talented players and ending up with average guys on the DLine. This staff has let more talented players leave the state and are settling. Since losing frank wilson Recruiting has been down.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:07 am to FLObserver
In that case Sherlock I guess ish is the only DT in the nation.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 10:26 am to lsucjn
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The Sopsher Conundrum
too big
needs to lose 20#
days of immobile DL are over
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:26 pm to Rouge
ed should've learned his lesson last year.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 2:39 pm to Heisenberg Aint Dead
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It's going to be really bad if our 3 juniors leave and Sopsher goes elsewhere. The cupboard will be extremely bare. We thought losing Surtain would really bite us but it hasn't been as bad as we originally thought. But with our already thin defensive line it would be a disaster.
Definitely a total disaster if this happens. Not all 3 of Alexander, Lawrence and Fehoko will leave, but it wouldn't surprise me if 2 of the 3 did, which is still the same horrific end effect.
You also cant really count on quality freshmen snaps on the DL, 5-star or not.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 3:10 pm to FLObserver
I agree. It almost becomes a chicken vs egg argument though. If you hold out for the 5 stars you think you have a shot with, and miss, you’re left with no depth. But if you offer the “lesser” guys and they end up being very average, then you end up 8-4 in the Liberty Bowl and still cant get the 5 stars. Rinse. Repeat. Only way to break the cycle as I see it is to find some underrated guys who really wanna be here and will play their arse off for you and coach them up. Win one or two you weren’t supposed to and then maybe you’re at 10-2 and can steal a few of those 5 stars you wouldnt have otherwise gotten. Or just offer copious amounts of cash.
Posted on 10/8/18 at 4:21 pm to lsucjn
Sopsher is an interesting prospect. Obviously he has rare measurable that make him a 5 star prospect. But isn't the knock on him that he doesn't always play hard? If so, that's worrisome. It seems LSU has had a few of those big men in recent years who just didn't pan out. Shelvin was the latest and right now he can't even make the travel roster on a team that could use depth along the DL.
Obviously Sopsher is a take in the class, but is it worth completely selling out and using two of your very limited scholarships to get him?
Obviously Sopsher is a take in the class, but is it worth completely selling out and using two of your very limited scholarships to get him?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:16 pm to Alt26
So everybody says the he wants to be at Bama? Is this based only on the fact that he has not signed with us? Or is there more to it?
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:29 pm to luismlg
Ish and Rodney Sospher will be at LSU.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 11:02 pm to thunderbird1100
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Definitely a total disaster if this happens. Not all 3 of Alexander, Lawrence and Fehoko will leave, but it wouldn't surprise me if 2 of the 3 did, which is still the same horrific end effect. You also cant really count on quality freshmen snaps on the DL, 5-star or not.
Definitely man and add to the fact that if they leave who has the staff recruited other than these starters? Tyler shelvin? How's that going? We haven't been landing the big fish on the DL lately and that's going to come back to bite us!!
Posted on 10/11/18 at 1:53 am to logansrun
Rodney will end up at a small D2 school near Tuscaloosa and Ish at Bama...it’s a lock, they’re from the shite pile called Amite
Posted on 10/11/18 at 7:42 am to lsucjn
Just from what I have gathered from the recruiting boards, I do not like what we are doing with Sopsher. We are thin at dline so we are letting a recruit push us around so that we take his brother too. It looks very doubtful Rodney will be a contributer in any way, so if ish busts we flat out will lose ballgames because of our dline. Its tough because everyone has ish rated so high and if he turns out to be that good he will Right the ship on the dline quickly. Basically we can’t miss on the eval or we are screwed. Just do not like the situation.
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 7:49 am
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:54 am to Rouge
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too big
needs to lose 20#
days of immobile DL are over
You are correct. Look at BAMA's Dline over the years. Its shrunk will the style of football that is played now. They don't have a guy over 310 on the 2 deep. Starters in the 280-290 range.
This is my concern with Sopsher. You already have 3 guys that are too big in Alexander, Shelvin, and Livingston and are restricted to only NT since they're so fat. All need to lose 20-40 lbs and convert one to a 300 lb DE. Lawrence at 317 could lose at least 15 over the summer and dominate next year.
Posted on 10/11/18 at 10:06 am to Ford Frenzy
This is being controlled by Saban's Amite bag man/barber shop. We are holding 2 scholarships up waiting on Ish to make a decision. Sopshers father is stringing O along at Saban's request, I've seen this movie before.
We need to move on!
We need to move on!
Posted on 10/11/18 at 10:33 am to lsucjn
I said it on here in the offseason, but the biggest mistake LSU made in recruiting this year was seemingly not going all out for Byron Young in the spring. He grew up an LSU fan, yet there were articles where he was quoted where LSU was not among the teams recruiting him the hardest. He visited Bama multiple times in the spring. They got him to camp in the summer, but it was too late by then.
I guess they didn't have him in the "elite" category of the other three Mississippi linemen, but they let Pickering jerk them around, and now may go empty handed besides Evans or get someone not as good as Young.
I guess they didn't have him in the "elite" category of the other three Mississippi linemen, but they let Pickering jerk them around, and now may go empty handed besides Evans or get someone not as good as Young.
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