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re: Some rumblings and updates in regards to portal players
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:03 am to The_Whispers
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:03 am to The_Whispers
FWIW, don't see Simmons in Miami. Even though he's a Miami native, Miami is looking for a more experienced guy.
Don't be surprised if Miami enters the DS sweepstakes as well given we lose Bain and Mesidor.
Don't be surprised if Miami enters the DS sweepstakes as well given we lose Bain and Mesidor.
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:34 am to Lester Earl
I gave the factors that affect ypc in another post which apparently you didn't read. Once again, stats are the LAZY observers who don't look at the players' ability and just ignore the circumstances of their carries. Briefly I will repeat some of them 1) down and distance and goal of the run 2) experience/learning the system 3) injuries in the OL 4) do a few long runs bias the average.
BTW, speaking of 4), the mathematical preferred measurement is "median" NOT "average". That is exactly because extremes skew averages. A few Durham long runs caused by more handoffs in more favorable situations and the rare OL hole have biased his average.
BTW, speaking of 4), the mathematical preferred measurement is "median" NOT "average". That is exactly because extremes skew averages. A few Durham long runs caused by more handoffs in more favorable situations and the rare OL hole have biased his average.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:50 am to NotaStarGazer
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A few Durham long runs caused by more handoffs in more favorable situations and the rare OL hole have biased his average.
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gave the factors that affect ypc in another post which apparently you didn't read
Either quantify, or stop with the fairy tale bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:28 am to NotaStarGazer
Ehhh Berry stats were boosted by a few long runs more so than Durham’s. Yall just make up shite to make your argument look good. Durham is good back and possibly great in Lane Kiffin’s offense.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:48 am to tigervilly13
I can get on board with about your comments on the RB position but if they feel they can have a productive rotation with all 3 I'm for it.Cant predict what year any player is gonna have but as if chambliss has a career year that will mean LSU is successful. The Rockstar you speak on isn't a guarantee.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:33 pm to TigahTX
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Ehhh Berry stats were boosted by a few long runs more so than Durham’s.
That’s how probability and statistics works though. Stop looking at is as his numbers are inflated since he had a limited sample size with several outliers. Perhaps the reality is that he’s good for a long run every so many carries.
No one really argues the other way that getting stuffed behind the line occasionally negatively impacts rushing totals.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:22 pm to Lester Earl
Guy, you stop with the bullshite! You TRY unsuccessfully to compare a 2 year guy with a 1 year guy (really about half a season since Frank Wilson was so stupid he didn't make the change earlier). BTW, Berry IS the #1 back in the rotation for RUNNING plays so I guess you ignore that also. Once again, I guess you don't understand simple math concepts since "average" went out decades ago as the legitimate measurement..."median" is now the preferred method because median throws out the extremes. I repeat again for you slow leaners..a guy with a lot more carries has a MUCH BETTER chance to break off some long runs which skew the "average ypc".
A real life example: Elon Musk..1 guy...raises the "average" worth of every single American by $2800. Musk wouldn't mean squat to the median person's worth. Retake Math 101, sit in the front of the class, and stay awake this time. You can't evaluate talent and you don't understand simple math.
A real life example: Elon Musk..1 guy...raises the "average" worth of every single American by $2800. Musk wouldn't mean squat to the median person's worth. Retake Math 101, sit in the front of the class, and stay awake this time. You can't evaluate talent and you don't understand simple math.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:25 pm to NotaStarGazer
Just stopping in to say there’s no reason to expect a true freshman RB to step in Day 1 and start anywhere in the SEC. Too steep of a learning curve. Idk if I’m in the minority, bringing in Berry slowly was clearly the right thing to do. We saw the same thing last season with Durham. They need to get in game reps to the develop and then you take the training wheels off.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:33 pm to NotaStarGazer
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a guy with a lot more carries has a MUCH BETTER chance to break off some long runs which skew
Durham only had 5 more carries than Berry. How have you argued this for 2 days and not known this? I literally posted the stats for you.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
Durham didn't play against Ole Miss...only carried 3 times vs Alabama....5 times against A&M...6 times against OU. Against the toughest defenses, Berry carried more than twice the amount that Durham did which brought down HB's average. BTW, you want numbers. If you take away only 5 runs of CD...24, 51, 24, 51, 27, his average drops from 4.8 to 32. In the Vandy game for example, he had 7/59 with almost all of it (51) on one run.
As I said, anyone who claims average is legitimate hasn't passed Math 101. Durham's yardage is skewed by a handful of runs and he avoided carrying the ball much at all against the better SEC teams.. Berry had twice as many carries total against the teams listed above as Durham.
As I said, anyone who claims average is legitimate hasn't passed Math 101. Durham's yardage is skewed by a handful of runs and he avoided carrying the ball much at all against the better SEC teams.. Berry had twice as many carries total against the teams listed above as Durham.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:59 pm to TigahTX
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Ehhh Berry stats were boosted by a few long runs more so than Durham’s.
Do your homework. As I mentioned in another post, Durham's average drops to 3.2 from 4.8 by simply not counting 5 runs out of over 100. His long runs of 24, 51, 24, 51, and 27 are the ones I'm referring to. In the Vandy game, he had 7/59...take out the 51 run in that game, 6 for 8 yards. Try again, your statement was simply not true.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:19 pm to Lester Earl
"Lies, damn lies, and statistics" - Someone once said
It seems to me that Durham's explosiveness has regressed, perhaps due to injury and/or poor offensive execution.
That said, I concur that the numbers don't lie. But (yes, qualitatively) I "believe" there is more upside with Berry.
Either way, I hope they both come back.
It seems to me that Durham's explosiveness has regressed, perhaps due to injury and/or poor offensive execution.
That said, I concur that the numbers don't lie. But (yes, qualitatively) I "believe" there is more upside with Berry.
Either way, I hope they both come back.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:50 pm to NotaStarGazer
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If you take away only 5 runs of CD...24, 51, 24, 51, 27
Wait, you said Berry was more explosive and had better vision blah blah blah
Now you want to take away Durham’s explosive runs to suit your bias? Lmao, get fricked, idiot
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:02 pm to liquid rabbit
I’ve been a paramedic 30 yrs and RN for 24.
Would love to run out of that tunnel !
Would love to run out of that tunnel !
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:36 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Durham didn't play against Ole Miss...only carried 3 times vs Alabama....5 times against A&M...6 times against OU. Against the toughest defenses, Berry carried more than twice the amount that Durham did which brought down HB's average.
This is the sole reason Durham had a better average.
Anyone who watched the games could see Berry is the better talent.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:04 pm to SEC Doctor
This tread sucked, where are the other transfers we r looking at. Two people comparing LSU players for 6 pages.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:13 pm to Red504
Oh I definitely would be for it as well but it's hard to envision not losing one of the 2 if he comes here. I understand your chambliss point. I can say some part of me want things to look a certain way if we win vs what lane's approach to building the roster may look like. For instance I'd rather win with the tuas Trevors or burrows at QB vs the more recent teams with guys like stetson and will Howard. I'll soften my stance eventually
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:21 pm to Wadey
Portal doesn’t officially open till Jan 2nd, all of these threads are meaningless.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:25 pm to The_Whispers
If we're indeed getting Lacy, put all of the focus on retaining Harlem.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:29 pm to Lester Earl
Lester you weren't aware of the most commonly used stat in sports, the median yards per carry?
Also lol @ anyone saying advanced stats (something not even being argued here) don't take into account down/distance, opponent, etc. I had to start a thread on here in 2019 because people were complaining that we weren't running the ball well enough (while putting up 50 a night). Our success rate was astronomical. Almost every run was a 5+ yard gain, 1st down, or touchdown.
I don't know who is better between Durham and Berry. Durham has better numbers. Sitting in the endzone, I can say that he misses more holes than Berry did. He is at the same time more willing to run between the tackles than Berry is. I think both could be very good in the right scheme/an average offensive line.
Also lol @ anyone saying advanced stats (something not even being argued here) don't take into account down/distance, opponent, etc. I had to start a thread on here in 2019 because people were complaining that we weren't running the ball well enough (while putting up 50 a night). Our success rate was astronomical. Almost every run was a 5+ yard gain, 1st down, or touchdown.
I don't know who is better between Durham and Berry. Durham has better numbers. Sitting in the endzone, I can say that he misses more holes than Berry did. He is at the same time more willing to run between the tackles than Berry is. I think both could be very good in the right scheme/an average offensive line.
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