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re: Some rumblings and updates in regards to portal players
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:53 pm to roberto1994
Posted on 12/21/25 at 8:53 pm to roberto1994
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Burrow and Daniels were obviously way different. Guess I’m just not privy to the “new landscape” of NIL and transfer portal. It is what it is, not gonna lie I’ll root him on if he’s here but I miss the game I grew up on…. I know TLDR, cry me a river etc etc.
How is Daniels different?
He was a starter and left his team after a coaching change.
Why should Chambliss stick around for a new coach at a program he didn't even initially go to?
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:05 pm to Lester Earl
Nooooo, eye test is what is common sense. What is NOT common sense are analytics. No one has ever made those transparent, but apparently it is a chart that doesn't take into account the opponents, injuries, momentum in the game, quality of a FG kicker or punter, etc, etc, etc...not even sure if it takes into account field position, etc
Now to the running back situation. You aren't taking into account that Durham has been in the program 2 years...Berry only 1. And Berry carried less than a hand full of times in 5 games I believe (DNP in 2). Once again, I gave specific skills of Berry over Durham that are incredibly important. I'm not responsible for your lack of talent evaluation. You just go by some stats that just like analytics don't take into account many factors. A few of them would be 1) what was down and distance of the run called 2) red zone or not red zone of the play 3) score of the game, etc, etc, etc
Now to the running back situation. You aren't taking into account that Durham has been in the program 2 years...Berry only 1. And Berry carried less than a hand full of times in 5 games I believe (DNP in 2). Once again, I gave specific skills of Berry over Durham that are incredibly important. I'm not responsible for your lack of talent evaluation. You just go by some stats that just like analytics don't take into account many factors. A few of them would be 1) what was down and distance of the run called 2) red zone or not red zone of the play 3) score of the game, etc, etc, etc
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:29 pm to NotaStarGazer
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You just go by some stats that just like analytics don't take into account many factors.
people hate stats that don't back up their biases. That's a whole lot of excuses you are trying to invent there.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:44 pm to TigerLifer18
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Chambliss, Lacy, Alexander, and Watkins change the offense overnight.
Not unless we improve the OL
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:21 pm to liquid rabbit
There’s a shortage . Keep up
Posted on 12/21/25 at 10:57 pm to Lester Earl
It’s not excuses it’s facts.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 11:37 pm to Lester Earl
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You keep saying that. If i didn't like Berry, I would not be afraid to just say it lol. There is no data to support that Berry was better. I guess the stats hate Berry too huh?
The stats do support Durham having a better year but you did try saying berry would be better as a receiver and I just don't see it.
Berry does have a much better burst than Durham. I don't think Durham has been healthy for much of his lsu career though. He is always nicked up.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:49 am to The_Whispers
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Dylan Stewart was always transferring no matter what. Lucas gives us an edge, but this one all about NIL at the end of the day. We will have to fight Ohio State and Texas. Never know.
Pay the man. LSU should have some cash to spend with Pyburn, Payton, and Butler all out of eligibility.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:00 am to Chalkywhite84
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but you did try saying berry would be better as a receiver and I just don't see it.
Well they hardly involved him in the passing game at all. Not much creativity getting him the ball in space as a runner or receiver
I will say he ran much harder between the tackles than I thought he would. But you can tell it’s something he hasn’t done much before. He had trouble seeing 2nd level cutting lanes. Hopefully this opens up for him as the game slows down a bit
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:21 am to chadr07
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It’s not excuses it’s facts.
No, its called conjecture. Like when you said Jake Retzlaff was a pocket passer like Garrett Nussmeier; you thought that was a fact, but it was indeed not once I presented you the actual facts.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:27 am to Lester Earl
You're winning the debate. That said, analytics over eye test has/had an entire generation actually believing LeBron and Mike Trout are the best players their sports have ever seen. It's painfully obvious those folks never laid their eyes on Micheal Jordan and Barry Bonds. The eye test, while deceiving at times, isn't manipulated to fit an argument like stats are through analytics. Analytics take perspective out of the equation though its just as important. You can see things stats cant describe.
If the Lacy 2 mil # is true, pay Durham and Berry and find another guy. Likely could get all 3 done for that same 2 mil.
If the Lacy 2 mil # is true, pay Durham and Berry and find another guy. Likely could get all 3 done for that same 2 mil.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:53 am to lsufanva
These are all rather basic stats, not really what anyone would consider analytics.
Comparing two guys from the same exact RB room is not the same as comparing players over two different generations of their respective sports.
I can assure you the variables that each RB dealt with is not much different, if at all.
This really isn't a slight at Berry as much as it is a Stans for Durham. Who is a really solid RB, especially when fully healthy.
In SEC Games last Two seasons:
172 916 5.3 6
Comparing two guys from the same exact RB room is not the same as comparing players over two different generations of their respective sports.
I can assure you the variables that each RB dealt with is not much different, if at all.
This really isn't a slight at Berry as much as it is a Stans for Durham. Who is a really solid RB, especially when fully healthy.
In SEC Games last Two seasons:
172 916 5.3 6
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:00 am to lsufanva
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Durham and Berry and find another guy. Likely could get all 3 done for that same 2 mil.
doubt it
Word from insiders on pay sites is that Durham and Berry are making well above market for RBs
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:42 am to Datbayoubengal
Durham is really good and played hurt a lot of the year. With Lane's offense opening holes, he could be an All-SEC type back. Berry would probably be used in the passing game a bit more, but he would also excel in that system. You keep both and add 2 more.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:44 am to The_Whispers
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Diego Pavia situation helped lot with this.
How did Pavia help with this? He went to a JUCO, Chambliss went to a four year college.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:52 am to Lester Earl
Nnnoooo, people hate stats because SIMPLETONS like yourself are too lazy to look at factors beyond the stats. BTW, Durham says he has been hurt BOTH years and this season MORE than last season, so he claims he has been playing hurt. I'm comparing Durham "playing hurt" vs Berry who may or may not be playing hurt. But that is how the "eye test" is done. You compare what you see and also try to "project" improvement. Berry IS the better back running the ball under the current situations.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 9:02 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:55 am to Lester Earl
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Wow, you failed Math 101 didn't you. One player has been in the program active as a RB 2 years...the other one basically half of a season actually carrying the ball. But yeah, no difference at all. You need to TRY to analyze another sport....football ain't it for you.
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can assure you the variables that each RB dealt with is not much different, if at all.
Wow, you failed Math 101 didn't you. One player has been in the program active as a RB 2 years...the other one basically half of a season actually carrying the ball. But yeah, no difference at all. You need to TRY to analyze another sport....football ain't it for you.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:06 am to Lester Earl
I don’t know much, but the eye test coming out of high school showed me Etienne was superior than Cam Akers. Not sure why recruiting rankings missed that. Same goes for Jamal Adams and Hootie.
Some players just jump out on film when compared to each other, but that’s just the eye test.
Some players just jump out on film when compared to each other, but that’s just the eye test.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:14 am to NotaStarGazer
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to look at factors beyond the stats.
Like what? I am waiting for you to quantify them to prove your point.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:17 am to beauchristopher
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don’t know much, but the eye test coming out of high school showed me Etienne was superior than Cam Akers. Not sure why recruiting rankings missed that. Same goes for Jamal Adams and Hootie.
That’s not what’s being talked about though.
Berry was ranked above Nate Shepard and no one would argue he was better this year because he just has “it”.
That is just a crutch to confirm old biases. Either prove the point or don’t.
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