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re: Saw Jahkeem Stewart today at Destrehan game decked out in USC shirt and sweats…

Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:30 am to
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Either way, I’m sure he’s a great kid and I’ll be ecstatic if he ends up a Tiger.


I’m not so sure. If he comes to LSU then he’s clearly a good kid. If he goes anywhere else then he’s a trouble maker with tons of red flags. Everyone knows that’s how it works.
Posted by BetaPhi681
Hammond, LA
Member since Apr 2023
298 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:07 am to
Ishmael Shopsher is no longer listed on SWCC's Roster
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:08 am to
1 player will not make or break LSU.How hard is it to understand you win
with players that want to be TIGERS.If he goes to So Cal good for him,they
will lose players from their state also.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11767 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:37 am to
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1 player will not make or break LSU.How hard is it to understand you win
with players that want to be TIGERS.If he goes to So Cal good for him,they
will lose players from their state also.


Yeah but the good kids want to go to LSU and the bad kids go elsewhere. Are you new here?

I mean just last year, McKinley was a bad kid who gives half effort and then he switched his pledge to LSU and he turned into a very deserving 5 star with tons of upside. I don't make the rules, its just how it works.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 11:39 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61901 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:44 am to
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John David Booty went to USC after his Junior year AT EVANGEL.


Kinda. He had to take English IV over the summer. Also, Evangel was handing out GEDs back then.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7678 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Academics is more important than sports .


Not if you are a football player.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:50 pm to
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So we are losing another top Louisiana recruit at a position of need


Yeah, that’s been such a huge problem in the 24 and 25 classes.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6496 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:49 am to
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Not at USC


It's a known that if you have the means you can buy your way into USC...

You think they will not accommodate the top player in the country?
Posted by KnightTrain
The Island within Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
28 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:52 am to
What's the source? St Aug has historically made sure our kids are academically prepared for college including student athletes.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
10344 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:03 am to
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What's the source? St Aug has historically made sure our kids are academically prepared for college including student athletes.


There is no source, that guy is just slandering a kid on a message board.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1990 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:41 am to
This means as much to me as it would if you'd reported seeing him decked out in LSU gear - literally nothing.


Kids go on trips and get free gear. The gear is typically pretty cool. Kids have to wear clothes. Kids like to wear cool things. College gear is cool by virtue of being cool, but is doubly cool in this context, because it also acts as a status symbol: I'm an elite football prospect and have schools from all over going crazy trying to sign me. Thus: Kids wear the free gear they get on their college trips.



It's not that deep, and it's not that meaningful. Of all the times I've heard of a recruit wearing LSU gloves or socks during a game, I'd say the kid wound up signing with LSU *far* less than half of the time. Because it doesn't mean anything.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1990 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:14 am to
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1 player will not make or break LSU.



One player won't *break* LSU but a player of Stewart's caliber can certainly *make* LSU. This is a potential 1.1-type prospect - not just a difference-maker but potentially a once-or-twice-a-decade sort of difference-maker. How many national championships would be changed if the second best team could magically add the best defensive lineman in the country? More than a few. And, while nothing is guaranteed, that's the type of guy Stewart could be.


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How hard is it to understand you win with players that want to be TIGERS.




This is the dumbest statement ever. Of course "you win with the players that want to be TIGERS" - those are the players on your team. There's nobody else you possibly could win with. And do you know what's also true? You lose with the players who want to be tigers. In fact, you lose with the players who want to be tigers far more often (all the seasons where LSU didn't win a national championship) than you win with the players who want to be tigers (4 times in program history). All but 4 national championship teams in history were made up of players who didn't "want to be TIGERS."


The point of recruiting is to bring in the 25 (or so) most talented players you can, not the 25 players who want to play for LSU most badly. If it really was the case that desire to play for LSU was more important than talent then why even bother? Most of the ~25 kids we sign in a given class have to be actively convinced to play for LSU; they would not sign with us if we did not do the convincing. But I guarantee you there are far more than 25 HS players in the country who wouldn't need any convincing--"players that want to be TIGERS". How do you think things would go for us if our recruiting class was made up entirely of that latter group? (Hint: You'd absolutely hate it).




If it really were the case that "you win with the players that want to be TIGERS" then we'd be national champions every year lmao. Our roster always has the group of players who most want to be tigers. But we don't win the championship every year because you win championships with the best players.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:19 am
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1990 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:20 am to
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I’m not so sure. If he comes to LSU then he’s clearly a good kid. If he goes anywhere else then he’s a trouble maker with tons of red flags. Everyone knows that’s how it works.



Excellent post. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1990 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:38 am to
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Academics is more important than sports




This is such a myopic and paternalistic and, honestly, envy-driven viewpoint. The conventional wisdom considers academics "more important" than sports because, for the vast majority of people, it is. But Jahkeem Stewart is not the vast majority of people. In his case, the only reason to say that "academics is more important than sports" is because it annoys you that he's has a pathway to success that wasn't available to you, and you want to feel justified in considering that success undeserved. Because if you were the parent of a kid with enough physical potential to be a future #1 overall draft pick--a kid with a real chance to create generational wealth by playing a sport--I can guarantee that you wouldn't be viewing his college decision through the lens of academics being more important than sports.



Like, would it be a better decision, do you think, if Jahkeem Stewart went to Harvard? Would that be better for his future? Obviously not. Because for him academics aren't--and shouldn't be--considered more important than sports.



I always find it interesting that people do this with athletes but not with other "extreme" career paths. What if instead of football it was music? Should Paul McCartney and John Lennon (or whatever musicians you prefer) have prioritized their continued education over forming a band and writing and performing music? What makes this any different?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13500 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:42 pm to
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I will say it now, before he commits and signs somewhere else. Stewart will be a bust!! Plays too tall, he is dumb as a rock, the OL's in college will eat him alive, and he only cares for a bag (now). He left his high school friends to move to rival Karr just for a chance to reclassify 1 year earlier. Its all about the money, he is not very bright in school, and takes many plays off. Just think he will be a non story in CF.


I agree and for the record I’m basing my opinion on zero inside info. But how many times have you seen a Louisiana recruit actively troll like this (he KNEW eyes were gonna be on him, yet he chose to be decked out in USC gear) and still pick LSU? I just don’t see kids with this mental make up staying home and succeeding. Just my opinion.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:46 pm to
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, he is dumb as a rock,


Please explain how someone who is dumb as a rock can graduate high school a year and a half early?
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
835 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:52 pm to
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Please explain how someone who is dumb as a rock can graduate high school a year and a half early?
Sounds like you went to a HS that didn’t have a very strong sports program
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1750 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:31 pm to
What about the slippers bro?
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
23891 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:35 pm to
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he KNEW eyes were gonna be on him, yet he chose to be decked out in USC gear


There’s no way those St Charles Parish Baws at Destrehan, let him roam around in USC gear without giving it to him.
I live out there and it’s HEAVY LSU country.

I’ve still yet to see a pic, so I’ll just use imagination.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9309 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:55 pm to
It is every year. Crazy how some have such short memories. This kinda stuff and recruiting period. I’m no longer concerned with recruiting the defense and since he’s been here BK has done a great job on offense. Plus with this scholarship limit deal, we can now easily afford to take more risks on guys we think might develop and be a star when they do.
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