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re: Rodney Sopsher scholarship debate - what's the RB think?
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:29 pm to saderade
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:29 pm to saderade
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You have to offer both a scholarship unfortunately. When you are competing against the best program in the country, you need to have as many elite players as possible.
Yep, LSU's second fiddle to Bama, for now...by any means necessary...land Sopsher…
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:47 pm to TeamLSU
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There's no way I would entertain the thought of giving Rodney a scholarship. Ish is NOT bigger than the program. No one player should be able to hold the LSU program hostage. JMO.
Package deals like this in college football are nothing new or unusual.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:49 pm to OppositeMan
I keep recruiting other top DTA's and if I get one close to the same ability and ready to commit, I make one phone call to the Sopsher family and ask for an immediate commitment. If they decline I take the bird in the hand, and try to finish up strong with my other available spots. I'd love to have Ish and would be willing to take his brother, but not willing to get played and left with slim pickings. Not sure if the Amite WR has anything to do with the Sopsher decision.
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:52 pm to Broken Arrow
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Just my two cents but there is absolutely no way I’d give up two scholarships to get one player.
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Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:14 am to geauxpurple
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How big of a waste would the second one be? Can the brother play at all in the SEC?
We're assuming it's a waste. It's just hypothetical.
Would you give 2 schollies to get the #1 DT in the country, regardless of year?
I would. Like that other baw said, I'd do the same for the #1 OT...probably the #1 QB, #1 Buck...
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:24 am to OppositeMan
Didn't we basically do the same thing by signing Lanard Fournette, Leonard Fournette's brother? Lanard came a year later, but pretty sure it was a package deal. Do it
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Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:33 am to Goldrush25
Goldrush25-I totally understand the game. I've played on the college level, so I know about package deals. And I think LSU and Les Miles missed out when Teddy Bridgewater wanted to come here and he wanted his best friend Eli Rodgers to be part of the deal. Miles refused and they both end up at Louisville together and now both are in the NFL.
Rodney is a different story. Wouldn't waste a scholarship on him. IMO, it's a weak and desperate move.
Rodney is a different story. Wouldn't waste a scholarship on him. IMO, it's a weak and desperate move.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:42 am to OppositeMan
I say push for Ish harder than ever even if it means taking Rodney. Ish is a difference maker. We will field a team with or without him, but we need guys who are better than the o-lineman in front of them. Ish will give us that, likely from day one. Best case scenario, we sign both and Rodney can't qualify thus saving one of the 85 scholarships (another board says we're in a bit of trouble on that front). Worst case if they both sign, Rodney takes a spot on the bench and at least has a role on the scout team for a couple years. Does anybody know how many years of eligibility he has remaining?
ETA: if we take both, then they absolutely shouldn't let Hampton sign until he knows for sure he's coming here. Can't waste two scholarships in one class.
ETA: if we take both, then they absolutely shouldn't let Hampton sign until he knows for sure he's coming here. Can't waste two scholarships in one class.
This post was edited on 12/21/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:48 am to StorminFree
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Well, we did get 2 Fournettes, And that did not seem to work out very bad for anybody
Yeah, but people were comparing LF to Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Adrian Peterson. I don't see people comparing Sopsher to Nsamukong Suh but I do see him being compared to John Jenkins (NYG). DL is a different animal. For every Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary or Dexter Lawrence, there's more Robert Nkemdiches, Trenton Thompsons, Ondre Pipkins or Kenny Bigleows.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 8:51 am to OppositeMan
We did it with Lanard and looks like we may have underestimated his talent.
If Rodney is borderline, just do it....get him on campus and coach him up and you should get some production.
If I was the coach I would do it. I would feel dirty for doing it, but I would.
If Rodney is borderline, just do it....get him on campus and coach him up and you should get some production.
If I was the coach I would do it. I would feel dirty for doing it, but I would.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 9:47 am to MandevilleSlim
If it takes two scholarships to get Ishmael Sopsher you make that deal.
So your cool with this moving forward I take it? Now a 5 star can dictate things and say I want my less talented buddy to get a scholarship too or I'm not coming. Frick that and frick him!!
So your cool with this moving forward I take it? Now a 5 star can dictate things and say I want my less talented buddy to get a scholarship too or I'm not coming. Frick that and frick him!!
Posted on 12/21/18 at 3:45 pm to Tigerdad2001
Does Rodney have any offers from any other colleges? If he does, you would think he would want to go there. He might could actually play and not ride the bench. Is he in Jr College now? Is he a starter in Jr College?
Posted on 12/21/18 at 7:24 pm to saderade
quote:we're not competing against Alabama anymore...
When you are competing against the best program in the country
Posted on 12/21/18 at 7:51 pm to OppositeMan
There's no way I would give a scholarship to a player who in all likelihood will never play at LSU when it can be used for a much better player.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 10:39 pm to lowhound
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Didn't we basically do the same thing by signing Lanard Fournette, Leonard Fournette's brother? Lanard came a year later, but pretty sure it was a package deal. Do it
I don't know that it's really the same.
People really do not expect Rodney to bring anything to the table. Lanard, while not a huge addition, has had a little success. I could be wrong though.. who knows.
I think it's better if it's spread out, especially in case neither pan out.. If Ish, and it's a huge if, busts.. then we turned down two four star caliber players from this class.
I am also concerned a little about if he's sensitive. If things don't go exactly as he likes.. What if things don't go well with his brother.. Does he eventually become a transfer risk.
I recognize you always have this risk with any player, I'm just concerned with a brother package deal possibly affecting this.
Who were the two defensive lineman that were brothers (i think) from different classes.. and one guy ended up leaving?? But again, I don't mind packaged deals as much in different classes.
My issue with this package deal is who it may prevent from being able to come here. This is a tricky thing to manage with so many great guys left on the board. Then add in Hampton and being an MLB risk. Hampton is a guy who I have been the most excited about for the longest time in recruiting, probably ever..
I hate that LSU has to offer this, but Alabama does not. It is what it is though.. With all that said, I still think you take the gamble.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 11:02 pm to beauchristopher
I didn't think Lanard would bring anything to the table but he's been a serviceable RB. It was worth the deal.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 7:42 am to Surv1vor1st
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I recall the Cam Simms- Cam Robinson ordeal. Seems like Simms was pissed LSU didn't offer and helped steer Robinson(Hootie also) away from LSU. Robinson was an immediate starter for Bama, and in that scenario, you definitely offer both to get the one you really want.
And people on this board bitched about LSU not offering Sims to get Robinson.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 7:54 am to LSUFanMizeWay
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There's no way I would give a scholarship to a player who in all likelihood will never play at LSU when it can be used for a much better player.
Many scholarship players are career backups.
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