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re: Patrick Surtain =Zero Dignity
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:48 am to dos crystal
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:48 am to dos crystal
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but how he disrespected a coach that invested 3 years into him.
He's an elite prospect, that's what you have to do, Cory wasn't recruiting him out of the good of his heart. You people make such little sense.
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:49 am to BilJ
Had Auburn invested 3 years in Chase? Had they been led to believe all along that they were getting him? Apples to oranges.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:50 am to Jonrubberman
Why? Leave the kid alone. He did what he thought was best for him and probably is.
You give me the option of playing for Saban, fisher, Mullen, meyer, or about 70 other coaches instead of O, and I’ll make the same choice any day.
You give me the option of playing for Saban, fisher, Mullen, meyer, or about 70 other coaches instead of O, and I’ll make the same choice any day.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:51 am to Dave England
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All it says about him is that he was torn about the decision and let the staff know once it was finally made.
Yeah, you are really gullible. I guess the lsu staff and every recruiting analyst just dreamed up he was a lsu lean for 2 years. He never told anyone or gave any impression that he would choose lsu.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:53 am to dos crystal
What does that mean? Is it too hard for you to understand that Alabama made a late play for him that worked and made him reconsider?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:53 am to dos crystal
was he ever committed? Seems to be a bit of a red flag there. Again be mad at the staff for not having any kind of a back up plan and assuming an out of state prospect was in the bag.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:53 am to Skeezer
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You give me the option of playing for Saban, fisher, Mullen, meyer, or about 70 other coaches instead of O, and I’ll make the same choice any day.
That's fair, but would you drag someone along for two years and put it to them at 11 pm the night before? That is the question here. Not that he chose another coach/school.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:54 am to dos crystal
Are we talking about dignity or integrity here? 
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:54 am to BilJ
It should have been a huge red flag that the kid was "committed" for 2+ years, but wouldn't pull the trigger to sign early.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:55 am to Jonrubberman
Surtain was a douche for sure. But you DO NOT turn away a guy like Goodrich.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:55 am to dos crystal
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That's fair, but would you drag someone along for two years and put it to them at 11 pm the night before?
Again you act like LSU was recruiting him out of the goodness of their heart. They "invested" in him for 2 years because it was in our best interest, he went with Bama because it was in his best interest.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:58 am to Jonrubberman
I'm not sure what day it was, but whenever that "don't worry about hurting anyone's feelings" quote from the father was made, that was about as close to saying "we're going to Bama" as you can get without actually saying it.
At that point (really earlier, but definitely at that point), we should have officially gone all out for Goodrich/Washington or whoever else was option #2.
This is why I think you lock up the state FIRST, and then recruit outwards to fill needs or for that generationally great player.
At that point (really earlier, but definitely at that point), we should have officially gone all out for Goodrich/Washington or whoever else was option #2.
This is why I think you lock up the state FIRST, and then recruit outwards to fill needs or for that generationally great player.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:00 am to dos crystal
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That's fair, but would you drag someone along for two years and put it to them at 11 pm the night before? That is the question here. Not that he chose another coach/school.
They shouldn't have allowed themselves to be put into a position like that. If they'd foreseen this possibility, they would've made room for Goodrich.
In their minds they probably thought PS2 was a lock, which was a miscalculation. I don't care if they were recruiting him since pre-school. He's not a lock until he's ready to sign.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:04 am to Jonrubberman
I can’t believe this has so many upvotes...
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:05 am to BilJ
I wonder what some of these guys would expect LSU to have done if Surtain sustained a career-ending injury this past season.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:10 am to Dave England
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Patrick Surtain =Zero Dignity by Dave EnglandWhat does that mean? Is it too hard for you to understand that Alabama made a late play for him that worked and made him reconsider?
You want me to believe the poor little groupie and his daddy just decided at 11 pm the night before signing day he was going to a different school?
However, you don't want to believe, had lsu known this before, they would not have made the offer to Goodrich?
I think he visited Bama way before 11 p.m., had in home visits with both schools way before 11 p.m. but couldn't tell either school where he was leaning? However, two weeks before, he tells a recruiting service he had a pretty good idea what he was going to do but would announce on signing day.
My goodness, I know you don't like O, Neither do I. however, to go to these depths to justify this groupies actions and his total lack of respect to the coaching staff is absurd. It's really sad.
If my son came to me and said dad, I have second thoughts. I would not discourage him on not going to the school he was now interested in. I would say, you need to call Raymond and tell him. Now, maybe you guys justifying this wouldn't operate this way and that says a lot.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:14 am to dos crystal
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the poor little groupie and his daddy
Give me a fricking break, what a sad and pathetic way to try and belittle the #1 CB in the country and his dad who was a three-time pro bowler and played 11 years in the league. You don't think they knew how to handle the process?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:16 am to BilJ
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Again you act like LSU was recruiting him out of the goodness of their heart. They "invested" in him for 2 years because it was in our best interest, he went with Bama because it was in his best interest
Of course they were recruiting him because he's a good player and good help the team. The Post is dignity, not about a decision.
Maybe you handle your self with little respect for others. If so, I get you would not understand. I think the majority of people operate in what is in their best interest, however, have respect for others to let them know.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:16 am to dos crystal
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If my son came to me and said dad, I have second thoughts.
Again he was never committed. You're blaming the teenage kid vs. a guy making millions of dollars and has been in the recruiting game long enough to know nothing is ever final in this game until that LOI is faxed in. Blame him for having no back up plan.
You're making this into an emotional decision when its a business decision.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:18 am to BilJ
I'm failing to understand the business decision part.
Wonder what the long list of former LSU and current NFL Dbs would say about that?
Wonder what the long list of former LSU and current NFL Dbs would say about that?
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