Michael Van Buren Jr. - Rushing Stats at Mississippi State (Last Four Games)

Dual-threat QB, no doubt ??

Yeah, that is the worst part of Nussmeier's game by far. He is not a threat to run across the LOS. In the OU game, he FINALLY ran twice...one for a first down, and the other time almost a first down when he got hurt. But the 2 games before that, I don't think he ran past the LOS at all. I can guarantee a RZ touchdown from inside the 10. On a misdirection play, run everyone to one side and him keep it to the other side. He will STILL be running today because no one respects him to keep the ball.

As someone said, the read option play is a joke because everyone knows he will not keep the ball. I don't remember one single time he kept the ball on that type play. In fact, I would blame some of the lack of an LSU running game on that. A better running play would be straight handoffs or pitches because the play would develop faster. The two runs in the OU were passing plays where he couldn't find anyone and just ran. I don't expect him to be dual threat but it would surely help if he one iota of a run threat in him.

Yeah, but he's black.

Also, if he played LSU this year those rushing numbers would have tripled.

This dude played on a terrible team as a freshman and was sacked almost 30 times. Great, young pickup for us.

We don't need a dual threat. We need a qb with a good arm that is mobile.

That's cool, but I really don't care. I'm talking about a play where the QB has the option to keep the ball or hand it off. Calling it the "wishbone" I really don't care and it makes not one iota. That is about as important to me as the "star" position, A gap, Tampa 2, etc. What I care about is what happens on a play and how to improve the result. The proper semantics I couldn't care less.

Oh, and my new pet peeve is "Edge" for a position. God damn, for decades it was called DE. Now, all of sudden you aren't a football fan if you don't call the position "Edge rusher". Once again, don't give a shite. BTW, this is not directed at you but just the total nonsense of trying to make a simple game of tackling and blocking more complicated.

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He doesnt have to be JD5.

When it's 2nd & 6 or 3rd & 4...is he athletic enough to keep drives alive by tucking the ball and getting up field? That's all we need.

Just the threat of that simple ability changes the way d-lineman rush the passer.

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Exactly right! There is a category of QBs between pro style and dual threat. It is called a pocket passer who is mobile enough to occasionally throw on the run. And as you stated, LSU would have had many more first downs this season if Nussmeier on his pressure rollout had simply taken what the defense gave him. Proof is that in the OU, GN got one 3rd down converted and within a foot of getting another. And on the 2nd one he would have gotten that one if he had simply dove forward and not doing his best Chirs Hilton imitation by leaping into the air and ultimately getting hurt on the play. And as I said in a previous post, in a read option type play, if the QB isn't going to ever keep the ball, don't run the play. A straight handoff or a pitch is much faster and helps the OL out.

I did. Was being facetious…
The term gets WAY overused.

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What these morons are referring to esp after this year is having a mobile QB. Burrow was a mobile QB in college. JD is a dual threat QB.

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Joe Burrow was a dual threat.

It's just that LSU did not use a QB run-heavy scheme, but it could have and Joe would have excelled in it.