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re: Mcshay needs to STFU
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:27 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:27 am to thunderbird1100
one could argue our recruiting has been overrated the last few years. Sometimes the recruiting "experts" rate a guy higher than he should because he commits to a school that is top notch at the time
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:27 am to KCBasketball
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Try learning what he was talking about. He was talking about on the field talent. And we have been on the decline with ON THE FIELD TALENT.
This
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:30 am to KCBasketball
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Try learning what he was talking about. He was talking about on the field talent. And we have been on the decline with ON THE FIELD TALENT.
And he's wrong. This isn't hard to understand. There's a difference in TALENT and COACHING. The talent level is not any worse now than it was 3, 4...6 years ago. The development has left a lot to be desired though.
He should be ripping their own recruiting service if he thinks our overall talent level has declined recently. They're the ones giving us highly ranked classes with loads of talent every year.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:31 am to TEXASTIGER22
todd mcshay is a just a talking head that is controlled by higher ups. he really has no opinion. anything he says or does is fake. he was just someone that espn went and bought just so he can argue with mel kiper jr.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:32 am to thunderbird1100
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thunderbird1100
Who saw the field from our #1 recruiting class?
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:32 am to tigerskin
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one could argue our recruiting has been overrated the last few years. Sometimes the recruiting "experts" rate a guy higher than he should because he commits to a school that is top notch at the time
We've been locking down Louisiana just like we did under Saban. I don't see why they would suddenly jusst rate LA guys higher now thanthey did back then.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:33 am to KCBasketball
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Who saw the field from our #1 recruiting class?
What does this have to do with anything? But since you asked...
Randle
Shepard
Allen
Claiborne
Downs
Helton
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:35 am to thunderbird1100
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Randle
Shepard
Allen
Claiborne
Downs
Helton
And of those how many really contributed.
They are saying we have a decline in talent on the field, not in recruiting. Talent level can decline throughout college due to piss poor coaching. Talent level in high school is different than talent level in college. Our college on the field talent is very poor lately. Specially on defense.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:37 am to Baloo
Actually I don't think u do got it.....
--pretty sure we had the top recruiting class in the nation 1 year ago
--the entire offense was bad this year...u can say the running backs were not involved either
--shep seemed to get lit up every time he played this season
--Lafell won't fall to the third round
--our D is much improved from 08
--last year's class will start making a difference in 2010, not this class... we return several starters from last year, with upcoming talent from the 08, and 09 classes.
--Boone signed with us
--pretty sure we had the top recruiting class in the nation 1 year ago
--the entire offense was bad this year...u can say the running backs were not involved either
--shep seemed to get lit up every time he played this season
--Lafell won't fall to the third round
--our D is much improved from 08
--last year's class will start making a difference in 2010, not this class... we return several starters from last year, with upcoming talent from the 08, and 09 classes.
--Boone signed with us
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:42 am to Baloo
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Crazy negative on an almost perfect NSD for LSU. It's like they had a "bash LSU's class" segment planned and today's events didn't follow the script so they just went ahead with it anyway and bashed the program instead.
My thoughts as well. Earlier McSucky said that Kiffin was a top 3 HC as far as recruiting, who bends every rule.
He said if a recruit wants to go to the NFL, then play for Nick Saban.
He sux on usc, but doesn't bash their coaches for not coaching All-World QB Barkley.
Todd is a little bitch.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:42 am to tigerskin
Come on rantards... Can you honestly say you disagree with that? LSU can't coach up players, they don't play talented freshman, they can't get the ball to play makers, what is your problem??? This seems like an accurate assessment for ESPN
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:44 am to Patch
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they don't play talented freshman
Uh...
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:44 am to thunderbird1100
Talent in Louisiana differs from year to year. Some guys should have been 2 stars but because they signed with LSU, they were 3. Probably the same for some 4 stars. My opinion. I would have to go back and break it down completely but I have felt like that for the last several years. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think so.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:45 am to Patch
The moral of the story and a good point for those who dont know shite about football is that you could have a fricking all-star team of skill position players on offense and it wouldnt mean shite if you dont have an offensive line that can create time for passing and holes for running. Hopefully that will change next year.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:46 am to thunderbird1100
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Dude just basically ripped Miles to shreds. Said our overall talent level has steadily declined over the last 3-4 years. What an idiot. Try following recruiting McStupid.
The company he works for grades LSU as #1 in '09 and probably 5 or 6 this year. What a maroon!
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:47 am to bhslsu
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hes partly right but its not the talent level. it the development and coaching.
I agree. We are recruiting talented guy out of high school, but we are not developing them into talented college players. Really talented out of high school =/= maintaining LSU's talent level
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:48 am to Baloo
quote:Possibly...not crazy to say that it has (post season awards have declined, although certainly not the only barometer) definitely true of last year...just look at the manhandling of both lines, even with Black.
-- Our talent has slipped over each of the last 4 years
quote:not crazy to say that either
-- The receivers weren't involved in the offense
quote:In most eyes, definitely
-- Shepard was wasted
quote:possibly
-- LaFell is a 1st round talent who will get drafted in the 3rd round
quote:better than 2008 (does that really mean anything?) but overall not great, so true
-- Our defense isn't that great
quote:judging by the starters lost and not many young contributers last year, this is not a stretch at all
-- We're going to have to rely on this class to produce right away
I didn't see what was said, but if the above is accurate, I don't see where what McShay said is that far off.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:59 am to Sammobile
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bird: you Mcdouche
what was he wrong about?
Posted on 2/3/10 at 12:00 pm to X Carter Is Fast
quote:
bird: you Mcdouche
what was he wrong about?
He was wrong about talent level and really that wasn't the place to talk about it.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 12:05 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
this year and last years team are nowher near as talented as 06-07...hes right
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