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re: Maason Smith & Will Campbell: best lineman in 20yrs in LA

Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:41 pm to
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3. Cam Robinson
4. Jerry Sevin
5. Chris Faulk


Trai Turner was better than all 3 coming out imo.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 2:51 pm to
Nah, Turner had a sloppy arse body, he had to lose like 30lbs his Redshirt year
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:09 pm to
Lael was a bigger prospect than Whit. Cam Robinson definitely was.

Some of that is probably the boom in recruiting services but I got to follow Whit closely at WM and he wasn't a hyped up guy nationally back then.

This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:13 pm to
Yep, Greg Robinson was a man.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:35 pm to
These are my rankings not all dependent on recruiting rankings, though they are weighed a little

Whitworth was a huge blue chip recruit

Not every year is the same.
Posted by Speedy Greedy
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:37 pm to
LINK


Article about Campbell and his sophomore highlights.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5425 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:22 pm to
Whit was a big recruit but I don’t know how huge nationally. He wasn’t even that well thought of coming out of LSU in terms of being a top level Tackle.

I think he was the 5th or 6th tackle taken in his draft class on day 2.
Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:48 pm to
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Some of that is probably the boom in recruiting services but I got to follow Whit closely at WM and he wasn't a hyped up guy nationally back then.


Yet he played in the first Army All-American game and was a USA Today All-American if I am not mistaken? Brad Smalling may have been more hyped and Rodney Reed maxed out.his physical skills.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:31 pm to
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5. Gerald Willis

Jacquelin Roy was better
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:14 pm to
Recruiting was definitely muddier back then. A lot of people projected him as an interior lineman. Rudy Niswanger was supposed to be a tackle from ocs I believe and he ended up inside around that time period.

Don’t get me wrong, Whit was always a stud but there are a lot of studs in high school. Sometimes it’s relative. There were players from the OG 2-5A that many thought would go on to be better players than him at the time.

I recall when Whit played TE for varsity as a freshman if memory serves be right. He was known then and that was about as high level of HS competition as there was anywhere.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Really exciting times in the trenches again for LSU. Had taken a few years off there lol


We’ve had a ton of really good lineman the last few years. The lack of talent narrative is just an excuse that people like to use to deflect attention away from poor coaching.

Orgeron used that excuse after Bama beat the brakes off of us in 2018. In actuality, that 2018 roster was stacked. We just had a piss poor gameplan and coaching performance in the game against Bama.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:46 pm to
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We’ve had a ton of really good lineman the last few years. The lack of talent narrative is just an excuse that people like to use to deflect attention away from poor coaching.


From 05-12’ LSU had four 1st rd picks along the DL

They haven’t had one in 7 years, and this year will be 8.

So I’m just curious as to who you are talking about?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27744 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:45 am to
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So I’m just curious as to who you are talking about?


The production hasn’t been up to par, but Lawrence, Fehoko, Alexander, Shelvin were all National top 50 recruits

I’m assuming that’s what he’s referring to.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:48 am to
Where are the dudes tho wisey
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1630 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:20 am to
One of those are not like the others.

We got a lot of nice players, but the line recruiting took a big step down
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:22 am to
I think he was referring to the OL side.

But on DL, not sure 1st rd picks is sufficient by itself to determine talent levels, e.g. Danielle Hunter.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:28 am to
Les Miles really struggled with putting top end OL talent into the NFL, especially at the Tackle position. Props to him, both Cush and Charles are his guys, will both be drafted next week.

Danielle Hunter is a fine player but DL has not been up to LSU standards for years now.


His quote was "we've had a ton of really good lineman"....

I am simply asking, who?

Im sorry, but it is not a false narrative. O finally has both areas going in the right direction.
Posted by The Tiger322
Member since Dec 2019
2704 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:46 am to
Just got another CB for LSU.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5425 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:48 am to
You're right. Since the Brockers, Montgomery et al group the DL recruiting was not great.

I think O is recruiting interior linemen pretty well (on both sides of the ball) but for a DLine & Recruiting guru I have been underwhelmed by his DE recruiting overall to date. It's been the weakest single recruiting area on the Defense imo.

Hopefully that improves now with a natty
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:59 am to
I think Phillip Webb and BJ Ojulari can help us reverse that trend.
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