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re: LSU SOFTBALL Adds #3, #4 and #5 2026 Recruits
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:21 pm to The First Cut
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:21 pm to The First Cut
I never said LSU should be in the WS every other yr, Arizona St is old and needs updating, would be on par with Georgia, Washington is the same. The facilities in the SEC are unparalleled.
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:27 pm to Casualobserver1985
Even places like Arkansas have very nice facilities, I caught a game there last year. LSU doesn’t have anything special.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:37 pm to The First Cut
Agreed although ppl say the indoor may be the best in the country in softball
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:55 pm to The First Cut
LSU had something special a decade ago and proceeded to not elevate the program with the resources to be blunt.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 4:19 pm to timlan2057
Not having a "listed paid full time assistant" coach has nothing to do with money.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:04 pm to FireawayLSU
This is facts.
My daughter was in the 25 recruiting class and took an OF to LSU. A good friend's daughter was in the 26 class and took an OF to LSU.
The common theme during both visits was LSU is a "family"
At no point in time was winning a discussion point. Torina is also very wishy washy. She had no explanations or plans for how NiL would work for mine. And for my buddy she had no explanations for how the scholarship changes would affect the class or what it meant from an offer/NiL/Alston award perspective.
Mine chose a school in the ACC that probably will never have the level of success LSU has. My friend's daughter chose a different SEC school that knows how to win and has the rings to show it.
My daughter was in the 25 recruiting class and took an OF to LSU. A good friend's daughter was in the 26 class and took an OF to LSU.
The common theme during both visits was LSU is a "family"
At no point in time was winning a discussion point. Torina is also very wishy washy. She had no explanations or plans for how NiL would work for mine. And for my buddy she had no explanations for how the scholarship changes would affect the class or what it meant from an offer/NiL/Alston award perspective.
Mine chose a school in the ACC that probably will never have the level of success LSU has. My friend's daughter chose a different SEC school that knows how to win and has the rings to show it.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:33 pm to TexasNTiger
I’m a huge critic of Torina but I have to ask what a softball recruit’s expectations actually are for NIL? I feel like it would be far more difficult to be paid than the likes of WBB and gymnastics (and gymnastics would be more corporate sponsors instead if donors).
Besides Oklahoma and the Texas Tech oil guys throwing cash at every sport I just can’t see many programs giving much to softball NIL.
Besides Oklahoma and the Texas Tech oil guys throwing cash at every sport I just can’t see many programs giving much to softball NIL.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:20 am to TexasNTiger
The 2026 class that is ranked the number 1 class in the country with recruits that were by recruited by Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, UCLA and others, that class? I will say some kids/families are looking for different things, doesn’t make it right or wrong. Also, although a school may bring a kid in doesn’t mean they are their highest priority, for example , if a kid is a slapper and they really don’t want a slapper the message may be different. If you think every kid gets the same message in private you are delusional. There is a reason LSU has the number 1 class with elite players wanted by the best schools in the country and it’s not all the “family” atmosphere.
This post was edited on 1/25/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:39 am to TexasNTiger
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She had no explanations or plans for how NiL would work for mine
What are NIL expectations for softball? Can’t be much.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 2:29 pm to TigerAlum4Life
Very Detailed and informative breakdown. Thank you, with that said Lsu fails to reach OKC and the WCWS as long as Beth is here. She has maxed out her ability.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 2:44 pm to Jdash13
Most of the softball posters here are certifiably retarded.
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:37 pm to lovepurplelivegold14
The recruiting classes are rated high which means nothing, kids get their rankings because travel ball coaches have influence with the ranking services. The talent at LSU is down a good bit, very very few SEC level players, I don’t know what happened other than coach Leftwich not knowing what she is doing in recruiting but the roster is very pedestrian. Dobson did most of the recruiting and more importantly evaluating before he started doing Team USA thing, since he stopped recruiting the talent level has dropped precipitously…not a popular take but he was the best coach on the staff.I hope you guys will watch LSU and compare them to Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma… it’s not remotely close. This team will be very lucky to host a regional, most likely not even doing that.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:51 am to Casualobserver1985
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I don’t know what happened other than DEI coach Leftwich
A woman’s sport has a woman assistant and that’s considered DEI?
Certifiably retarded.
Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:07 pm to The First Cut
My comment stands, very poor recruiting and evaluating since Coach Dobson went to Team USA!! LSU will miss Coach Dobson, terrific coach!!
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:34 am
Posted on 1/26/25 at 11:27 pm to Casualobserver1985
The recruiting classes are rated high which means nothing, kids get their rankings because travel ball coaches have influence with the ranking services. The talent at LSU is down a good bit, very very few SEC level players, I don’t know what happened other than DEI coach Leftwich not knowing what she is doing in recruiting but the roster is very pedestrian. Dobson did most of the recruiting and more importantly evaluating before he started doing Team USA thing, since he stopped recruiting the talent level has dropped precipitously…not a popular take but he was the best coach on the staff.I hope you guys will watch LSU and compare them to Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma… it’s not remotely close. This team will be very lucky to host a regional, most likely not even doing that.
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This is an extremely dumb comment about Coach Leftwich. Think the forum will do well to avoid the political insertions as well. Be nice to actually be able to speak to people without turning everything into a completely inappropriate and irrelevant political, religious, moral, ethical debate. There are a lot of extremely reputable people in the softball world with likely much higher credentials and credibility who strongly refute most of your assertions on the talent at LSU too but at least that debate is more appropriate here..
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This is an extremely dumb comment about Coach Leftwich. Think the forum will do well to avoid the political insertions as well. Be nice to actually be able to speak to people without turning everything into a completely inappropriate and irrelevant political, religious, moral, ethical debate. There are a lot of extremely reputable people in the softball world with likely much higher credentials and credibility who strongly refute most of your assertions on the talent at LSU too but at least that debate is more appropriate here..
This post was edited on 1/26/25 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 1/26/25 at 11:28 pm to Casualobserver1985
"Your response indicates you have no clue what DEI actually is. Solely getting a job because you are woman is the definition of DEI, thank you for making the case for me!!"
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Completely disagree with this illogical statement as well. But again, wrong place for this silly injection of politics.....
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Completely disagree with this illogical statement as well. But again, wrong place for this silly injection of politics.....
This post was edited on 1/26/25 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:17 am to TigerByAssociation1
There are a few SEC level players but the overall roster is down. Did you see the top 100 players release by Softball America? Not 1 position player made that list, Berzon and Heavener were the only 2. The top 53 list had Coffey who we are lucky to have due to her injury last yr however if she had graduated not 1 position player would have made it. So 2 lists and only 1 position player made that list at LSU.. the talent level is down or the perception by national softball ppl is way off. Only 1 position player who made All American in last 6 yrs, is that ok at LSU? I remember when we routinely had AA back in the day here, maybe some of you guys haven’t been around that long but we used to have multiple AA position players every yr.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:50 am to Casualobserver1985
I think this assessment is a little flawed given Top 100s are generally upperclass returners. Softball America is the ONLY publication that had even one freshman on the list (and they had 2 pitchers with Addisen Fisher being the other), and they are less reputable than some of the others. Most would argue that no freshman should rank in the Top 100 without a college body of work. So your premise is based on a publication that suggests a freshman (any freshman) should be ranked ahead of Danieca Coffey or Jaila Lassiter and several others from other top programs(?). None of the other publications--including D1 Softball--had any freshman listed so the logic is flawed here. If the "talent" is down it isn't talent it is experience. LSU will be young. That is the point I think TigerbyAss is making. An innately talented group that needs experience is different than saying the 2024 and 2023 classes are a lot less talented.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 9:20 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:57 am to TigerAlum4Life
Time will tell, you may be right and I may be way off base..I hope you are correct!!
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:27 am to Casualobserver1985
You and I both, Casualobserver!! But the reality is because of their youth I think a good season would be finishing in the Top 4/5 of the SEC. And I agree with you, hosting a regional would be performing beyond expectations but mainly because of how young they are. But if Heavener looks anything like she's looked in the Fall and Spring and Berzon at least holds court from last season's performance they have a shot at exceeding my expectations. I think the big year will be next year: Berzon would be a Sr, Heavener will have a year under her belt and a few of the underclassmen if given playing time will grow a bit. I see this year as a chance to build a strong foundation for next year with a chance to shock some teams if one of the freshmen step up, Coffey, Lassiter & Redoutey return to form and a few of the sophomores/juniors step up a bit. I'm a realist, but also an optimist and I see the potential of this team.
I will be honest though: I am not too thrilled about the 2025 class. Not to speak ill but that class is probably the least talented group I've seen go into LSU in awhile. I don't suspect much help will come from that class, maybe with the exception of one of the three arms.
I will be honest though: I am not too thrilled about the 2025 class. Not to speak ill but that class is probably the least talented group I've seen go into LSU in awhile. I don't suspect much help will come from that class, maybe with the exception of one of the three arms.
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