re: LSU Men’s Basketball Transfer Portal Update!

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but I've been set straight by an EYBL coach on the rant.

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Seriously is this a joke, an EYBL coach, it’s literally in their name to be the middle man and facilitate the deals on behalf of the shoes companies to steer recruits to certain affiliated coaches and programs?

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Jay Wright

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Jay Wright ??
Wright came up under Rollie Massamino! The Godfather of Jersey inner city basketball recruiting and politics??? Rollie took over Villanova from Jack Craft another great recruiter. So yes, there is, was, some of those you named that would never and I believe them talk with a recruit or there family about specific dollar amounts. But by the time Jay Wright took over in 2000 for 40 years Villanova and their booster network had been built up into a machine. So yeah Jay Wright probably didn’t go and ever discuss on the phone with handlers, recruits coaches, family members of recruits, or the recruits themselves about money or inducements or what they would do. Or what other schools were offering. But all Jay Wright had to do was go to the closest circle of key boosters. Remember they had been in place for 40 years or had like the mafia been asked in to “help the program”. All Jay Wright would have to say and would, hey we are recruiting a kid from New York do we have any connections to the program or Villanova University that could help. Nothing else would ever need to be said. Also Jay Wright like the other two you mentioned was more of a program builder, but some of his rosters you are telling me with no payment, no matter how good you or they though Jay Wright was as a coach they chose Villanova, over any other school that was offering money????

Tony Bennett inherited a Virginia program that had Terry Holland (from the Lefty Driessel tree) and Pete Gillen. So for 30 years before Bennett got to Virginia the system had been built up. All he had to do was ask. Now he famously played a different brand of basketball and recruited sometimes 4-5-6 year players as in looked at players as not how good they weee before he coached them but what they could become if he kept them for 3-4 years.

Mark Few, for years primarily recruited either unranked or not even ranked or heard of foreign players through his network, and with supplemental certain players that fit the mold of what they built at the Kennel. Before the transfer portal and NIL. The foreign players if you had a realizable connection to the network overseas could be a gold mine but if you didn’t and tried to recruit you wouldn’t have a job for long. Mark Few didn’t have to pay a player like Rui Haichmora or Jalen Suggs. Why would he? Even 10 years ago the type of “foreign players” we are discussing were happy just to be found and given a chance to go play basketball for basically fun in America, have no bills, and leave their home countries. But the dirtiness of foreign recruiting and what Few and his top assistant were doing makes the NIL era now or the SEC in football in the 2000s look like candyland.

Now all 3 built programs but they all struggled for years until it worked then they got it rolling. It was easier, they are towards the end great coaches not just another suit on the sideline. So the booster would take care of everything and after 10-15-20 years of success instead of going after 15-20 guys hard in recruiting you could narrow it down to 3 or 4 and of course for the boosters that was easy. That’s the point, they (boosters get some level of greater access within and thus they help the program.

None of it was ever immoral, unethical, or wrong to me then. And look now. But if you’ll ok now all 3 coaches would struggle struggle if they continued to coach, some of their biggest recruiting advantages are gone. So why you can either coach or recruit or you can’t. There are coaches that had and still have resources and can’t get the job done. Today the recruiters on staff are even more important than before NIL. You can talk open’y about the offers and so if the recruiting batt’es are the same money it’s up to the recruiter to close. College basketball assistants literally are the used car salesman of the sports industry and they have to be. To coach a guy in practice you have to get him there. All 3 probably don’t make the ncaa tournament very much or if ever if they coached now. Go look after NIL has been implemented Gonzaga’s last three recruiting classes are 50th or worse, before Mark Few always had top 5 but very small in number classes.

Hold on a second! Are you telling me Jwill (the resident EYBL coach), had the wool pulled over his eyes by Few, Bennett, and Wright? And he, being an EYBL coach was most likely filthy as well?

I don't know man, that's what I used to believe, but Jdawg is pretty motherflucking convincing when he goes to bat for those 3 paragons of virtue that have won multiple national titles between them, and talks about how bad of a guy Wade is.

Coastrashtiger, are you telling me I've been led astray by Jwill?

No I am saying those three great coaches were telling the truth. One, it’s not their character, two all 3 were more program builders, but lastly they didn’t have to it’s built in. When Jay Wright of Villanova walks into a gym, or Tony Bennett of Virginia, okay a young 16 year old doesn’t remember or probably care about the greats that played before any of them were born.

tigahlovah not trying to be a smartass. What brand of shoes do/did Virginia, Villanova, and Gonzaga all wear?
What is EYBL?

I’m having a hard time reading some of this but I guess I’ll get down with what Coast is saying.

Seems like the story changed as the posts kept getting posted and so long winded. But maybe he’s just excited to share.

I don't know what brand they wear.

I've been to half a dozen EYBL weekends over the years. The signage spells out what it stands for.

So to be clear, those 3 didn't cheat they just had it done for them? I guess that would be acceptable to a guy like Jwill? Im confused.

I'm pretty sure a rule was put in about 15 years ago that stated a coach's deniability wasn't a legitimate defense in recruiting violation cases.

So those 3 coaches would be in a state of shock if they ever learned that their players were given illegal benefits pre NIL?

Thanks for the info.

So how long we gotta wait exactly? I want to put my 3k into the tip off club at some point but we have to have more than 1 player lol.

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I don't know what brand they wear.

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All 3 are Nike schools.

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The signage spells out what it stands for.

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They could have called it the human cattle show with wilson orange beach balls, or the Vietnamese Child Sweatdhop Labor Exhibition. I jest EYBL is the Nile sponsored, funded, and grassroots run youth basketball circuit. Every shoe company has one, and now they have multiplied by even individual signature shoe lines within shoe companies.

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So to be clear, those 3 didn't cheat they just had it done for them? I guess that would be acceptable to a guy like Jwill? Im confused.

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I don’t like the word, it never was cheating to me, but if anyone followed the spirit of the NCAA laws the all know. The EYBL circuits and not saying “J-Will” but many of them because it’s his job. So non-nike coaches can go to EYBL events, and nike coaches can go to any other shoe company circuit or tournament. But the only purpose and reason for these circuits existing and for the directors like J-Will to be paid is to keep kids in Nike shoes and if not outright pressure them to go to a Nike school make sure you are doing everything you can to steer them to in this case a Nike school. Now any really decent human not detached from reality, is not going to or shouldn’t get in the way of any opportunity for a young man because of a shoe even if there is money involved. But it happens, I have seen some wild things and outright dang near criminally illegal acts to get either help one shoe company or hurt another.

For instance of course those three coaches will have a relationship with every single EYBL director. One let’s say there are up and comers maybe the director tells the about their potential first before they become recruits. Maybe the Nike college coaches want more info on a player, his family, or to get in contact with them can get that done with the director or coaches, part of their job. A lot of the assistant coaches, your main bag man on staff before NIL would use the circuits and shoe companies as a “legal” way to pay players or induce them to sign.

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So those 3 coaches would be in a state of shock if they ever learned that their players were given illegal benefits pre NIL?

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No, but they don’t want to, have to, or need to get their hands dirty. Not their style, not judging either way, and it’s about levels. Your top college basketball coaches are treated like royalty by the shoe companies. If just two of the lottery tickets over ten years hit out of 30,000 athletes, any shoe company would 100x their investment over that entire 10 year period.

Thanks for the impressive status report. It sounds encouraging.

EYBL has only been around since 2010. It’s controlled chaos compared to the old days.

I still use my Nike duffle i got at the “junior olympics” in Raleigh.