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re: LSU basketball transfer portal watch

Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:16 pm to
It’s imperative to keep Phillips. I hope he stays. A debate I’ve had with others on this board revolves around expectations we have for taller wings and centers. We had a few last year(Reed and Phillips) that a lot of people said were “overrated” or blamed McMahon for lack of development. My point is and has always been the transition from hs to college is extremely difficult for players 6’9+. If you look at the top 100 hs players and take the stats of players with said height, you would be astonished how much they “underperform” based on what the expectations are from the majority of the fan base. HS bigs 90% of the time are projects, and most will be acquired in the portal unless he is “transcendent”. I hope to see a lot of them go to smaller schools and be the focal point against less talent and then transfer rather than go to a big school, don’t play, get frustrated and transfer to another big school and rinse and repeat. That’s the trend I’m seeing now. They’re chasing paper over development, sadly.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

A debate I’ve had with others on this board revolves around expectations we have for taller wings and centers. We had a few last year(Reed and Phillips) that a lot of people said were “overrated” or blamed McMahon for lack of development. My point is and has always been the transition from hs to college is extremely difficult for players 6’9+.


I don't recall too many people saying Phillips was overrated. Hell, most thing he should have played more. I agree that a lot of big centers are "projects" early on. Especially on offense. But those guys, largely because of their sheer size, can contribute early on defense and rebounding. Phillips's size and length were a defensive presence when he was in the game. He was also a solid rebounder. His offense was very raw and generally limited to dunks and putbacks. But you can absolutely live with that early if he can defend and rebound. Compare him with Efton Reid last season. Reid had really solid skill for a young center. Unfortunately, he was a poor defender and even worse rebounder. Thus, he didn't contribute a ton. Give me the big man who can block shots and rebound. We'll develop his offensive game.

Reed on the other hand was frustrating. He showed flashes of the exceptional skill he has for a 6'10 player that can handle the ball a bit and play from the perimeter. The frustration came from the way McMahon used him. Reed essentially wanted to be a 6'10 combo guard. While skilled, he's not polished enough to do that. Still, McMahon allowed him to be largely ineffective in that role all season.

Compare that to Naz Reid in 18-19. Early in that season he too wanted to be essentially a 6'10, 245 lb SG. IMO, the turning point of that season was the Florida St game where LSU blew a late lead because they were crushed on the glass. Reid played 41 minutes that game and somehow managed to grab only 2 rebounds (0 offensive). After that, Wade made his big arse get into the post more. The result was that his 3 point attempts went down and his rebounding went up significantly. From that point on LSU became a dominant offensive rebounding team. People forget that team was a terrible 3 point shooting team. But they were very efficient offensively because they crushed people inside on the offensive glass and went to the FT line a ton.

This season it was pretty clear early on Jalen Reed couldn't be left to be a 6'10 CG. He should have been forced inside more. That's on McMahon. Still, he has a skill set that could be developed into a really good player from inside and out. It would be a big boon to keep him and (hopefully) develop him.
Posted by lsugrad35
Jambalaya capital of the world
Member since Feb 2007
3297 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Other names receiving interest from LSU:

Ques Glover (Samford)
DJ Horne (Arizona St)


Other names receiving interest from LSU:

Everyone in the portal

But seriously, when do commits start to happen? Is there any deadline on this? Genuinely don't know the answer to this.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1466 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:42 pm to
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Hell, most thing he should have played more. I agree that a lot of big centers are "projects" early on. Especially on offense. But those guys, largely because of their sheer size, can contribute early on defense and rebounding. Phillips's size and length were a defensive presence when he was in the game.


This is what people don’t get when they make the “it takes time” argument. He made the team better when he was on the court THIS year. He still didn’t play. That’s part of the coaching issue you have brought up. There is a difference in Efton Reid looking lost on both sides of the court and Phillips actually being a presence down low with just a lack of polish.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70907 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:53 pm to
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But seriously, when do commits start to happen? Is there any deadline on this? Genuinely don't know the answer to this.



Whenever they want. There's no timeline to when you have to commit or anything, just a timeline to enter.

Obviously they need to be enrolled somewhere by the fall semester deadlines if they want to play there for fall/winter but thats a long ways away. There's 1,083 players in the portal right now with dozens entering each day and not very many have chosen a new school. As I type this 63 players have entered today.

Posted by CohibaLady76
Member since Dec 2017
178 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:30 pm to
Regarding Kel'el Ware who is big time talent whom Wade liked and LSU is back in contact with per reports - these comments below from his former coach are concerning. Maybe he didn't like the coach, maybe he didn't like going from Arkansas to the northwest, maybe he felt entitled as a top 10? LSU needs talent but also highly competitive guys if not a couple true dogs out there to set the tone (ie. Tari, Smart, E. Williams, Days, Murray, KBW, Mays type players). Traore had some smaller yet similar issues at Auburn this season with Pearl not happy with his focus and practice intensity several times which carried over to games.

“We’ve had a lot of conversations,” Altman said. “They haven’t gone as well and haven’t been as constructive as we want them to be. I was disappointed in his effort. I let him know that. He’s gonna have to make some adjustments or I’ve got to make some decisions. His time has been reduced. That doesn’t help us, because he is talented.”

This isn’t the first time this season that Altman has publicly criticized Ware’s effort.

Following Oregon’s home win over Oregon State on Dec. 31, Altman paid a backhanded compliment to the freshman, noting that Ware had played with energy in that game and “at least acted like he wanted to be here tonight.”

“He hasn’t blocked any shots lately. He hasn’t gotten any hands on balls,” Altman said. “He’s not using that length. We’ve still got to try to put the best team out there that gives us the best chance.

“If he’s playing hard, that helps us. But if he’s not, that hurts us.”
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 8:45 pm to
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CohibaLady76
Good catch. Definitely need to vet the attitude. McMahon said at one point that he would be looking for mentally tough hard working players.

ETA: still want Kelel Ware if he checks out. But would check with Big Shawn first.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 1:14 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164618 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:41 am to
Kadin Shedrick from Virginia (come home Reece Beekman)

TJ Bamba from Washington St

Both hearing from LSU
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32195 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:51 pm to
I feel like this is how LSU's transfer portal recruiting is going right now...

"Hello (insert player's name)! You want to come to LSU?! No?! Why not?! Ok, I see. Good answer! Thank you

Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 2:54 pm to
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I wouldn't trade Phillips for any center in the portal right now.


Keeping Phillips and finding a 2 good point guards is the key to everything. I’m not overly concerned about keeping any other players or recruiting any other positions. All that will fall into place. But Phillips is going to be very good and without 2 good ball handlers we might as well get settled in to last place.

What point guards are looking like real possibilities right now?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36647 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

What point guards are looking like real possibilities right now?
Primo Spears would be at the top of my wish list, but Amaree Abram out of Ole Miss seems more likely.

Nicolos Timberlake would be a nice to have also.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3363 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by AlecRock23
Central, LA
Member since Mar 2015
1469 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:40 pm to
Wishlist
Jalen Cook
Jordan Wright
BJ Mack
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3363 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:31 pm to
you'll get at least 2 of those
Posted by AlecRock23
Central, LA
Member since Mar 2015
1469 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:33 pm to
You think we’ll get cook and Wright?
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
3363 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:19 pm to
I do.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1362 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:23 pm to
Would be nice to get Jalen Cook since Wade screwed that one up.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29417 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:57 pm to
Jordan Wright out of Vandy would be a coup. He was a beast the last month and a half, and was dominant in the SEC Tourney game v LSU
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29417 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:04 pm to
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Tyler Nickel

--lot's of upside-- yer not jes woofin'. He's tremendously athletic and could be a veritable bashi-bazouk for this Tiger team seeking internal energy.
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