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Kardell questions
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:46 am
Not a recruiting guru myself, but after watching some highlights from Kardell's UAA practices it seems like he's overweight and plays high.
So my questions:
What made him a 5-star recruit?
What is his ideal college playing weight?
Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
So my questions:
What made him a 5-star recruit?
What is his ideal college playing weight?
Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:48 am to WhereDaGoldAt
He’s a mailer, strong and athletic
He probably needs to drop 20-30 pounds to get into playing to ideal playing shape.
But when your 350 and get into an actual nutrition and excercise regime that’s not insanely hard. It’s difficult to be 350 if you aren’t eating like a MF
He probably needs to drop 20-30 pounds to get into playing to ideal playing shape.
But when your 350 and get into an actual nutrition and excercise regime that’s not insanely hard. It’s difficult to be 350 if you aren’t eating like a MF
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:49 am to WhereDaGoldAt
I think Kardell is a guy that needs to get down to about 320-330. What is he at right now? Like 370? I think he's very good in run blocking, but has a lot of work to do in pass protection.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:49 am to WhereDaGoldAt
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What made him a 5-star recruit?
His size, strength, and his mean streak.
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What is his ideal college playing weight?
About 350...or maybe closer to 325-330.
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Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
I don't know, but I've always been interested in us giving him a try at C first.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:57 am to OppositeMan
Honestly, those one on one drills tend to favor the d-linemen. The get to 100% pin their ears back and go. There is no threat of being mauled in run protection. There's also only so much space for spin moves against an OG in games.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:58 am to Jester
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Honestly, those one on one drills tend to favor the d-linemen. The get to 100% pin their ears back and go. There is no threat of being mauled in run protection. There's also only so much space for spin moves against an OG in games.
I agree and am really not worried at all about Kardell. The head on his shoulders will ensure that he hits his full potential...and his full potential is scary.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:59 am to WhereDaGoldAt
Being completely honest here. I was very excited to have him as the cornerstone of this class, and I have loved his devotion to LSU since the day he committed.
However, I haven't watched one video of him from the AA game that makes me think he is ready to play college football. Slow, slow, slow. The same can be said if you watch Tyrion Davis' highlight film, and pay attention to Kardell. Was really hoping he could potentially be a day one contributor, but I just don't see that being a possibility right now.
Here's to hoping I am wrong! Geaux Tigers.
However, I haven't watched one video of him from the AA game that makes me think he is ready to play college football. Slow, slow, slow. The same can be said if you watch Tyrion Davis' highlight film, and pay attention to Kardell. Was really hoping he could potentially be a day one contributor, but I just don't see that being a possibility right now.
Here's to hoping I am wrong! Geaux Tigers.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:00 am to OppositeMan
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About 350...or maybe closer to 325-330.
If he is at 350, that is a BIG problem! That's significnatly overweight. Hell, 330 is significantly overweight.
He needs to be down to at least 320. Ideally, particularly for someone who isn't that tall (relatively speaking) you want him between 305 and 315.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:04 am to Alt26
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If he is at 350, that is a BIG problem! That's significnatly overweight. Hell, 330 is significantly overweight.
He needs to be down to at least 320. Ideally, particularly for someone who isn't that tall (relatively speaking) you want him between 305 and 315.
Meh...I think anywhere from 320-330 is ideal...305 is definitely way too low, and it's probably not possible for him, anyway.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:05 am to Jester
Very good point.
It’s a lot easier to run around a guard one in one
The guy looks like a hard worker and a smart enough kid.
He probably just though biggernos better.
Any of these guys who are 370 and have trouble losing eight really just have self-disabling issues. Like I said, 370 is hard to maintain while practicing everyday if your aren’t eating like crazy.
It’s a lot easier to run around a guard one in one
The guy looks like a hard worker and a smart enough kid.
He probably just though biggernos better.
Any of these guys who are 370 and have trouble losing eight really just have self-disabling issues. Like I said, 370 is hard to maintain while practicing everyday if your aren’t eating like crazy.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:08 am to LSUFAN227
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However, I haven't watched one video of him from the AA game that makes me think he is ready to play college football
He has been a dominant camp performer, though. I'm not saying this is the case with all of the kids, but I think with these all star games, some kids under perform because:
- They haven't played any football in 6 weeks
- It's the holidays and they've been eating and relaxing and not training, like almost all of us
So, we're expecting them to fly out to an all star game on New Year's Eve or NYD and immediately ramp up to compete.
I think there are some guys who are just always going to be in shape and be ready to go. Guys like Brooks, Alfano, Pickens, etc. But it's human nature that some guys are going to need and take a break after their high school season ends.
I really don't think we should overreact one way or the other when the performance at the all star game appears to be the outlier.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:10 am to WhereDaGoldAt
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but after watching some highlights from Kardell's UAA practices it seems like he's overweight and plays high.
He's a natural guard. He's going to be fine.
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What made him a 5-star recruit?
Just a brutal physical specimen, created by God to play offensive guard.
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Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
More likely he could be cross trained to make a servicable tackle. He would be wasted at center. He needs to be mauling his guy every play. That guy is going to get tired of getting up off the ground from getting pancaked so much. And, when he gets to the second level, the linebacker is going to think he got hit by a truck.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:26 am to LSUFAN227
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However, I haven't watched one video of him from the AA game that makes me think he is ready to play college football. Slow, slow, slow
The same Kardell Thomas who ran track at his high school and was returning punts in AAU practice?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:31 am to WhereDaGoldAt
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What made him a 5-star recruit?
Dominant tape, dominated in some camp settings including winning MVP for OL at Rivals 5-star challenge in summer last year, very impressive strength (won strongest man at a camp).
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What is his ideal college playing weight?
Hard to say, but couldnt hurt for him to get in the 320-330 range I'd say at about 6'2.5. I dont think we'll ever see him around 300.
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Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
Center is always tough to predict, but he's always played RG and RT from what I've seen on tape.
For what it's worth, Kardell has been almost the exact same weight the last 2 years. At a camp in summer 2017 he was mid 350s, this year he's been measured mid 350s multiple times.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:42 am to WhereDaGoldAt
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What made him a 5-star recruit?
He's strong AF and plays with a serious mean streak. He's just 20-30 lbs overweight.
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Does he have the versatility to play guard AND center?
He's all guard IMO.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:45 am to TheCaterpillar
Sincerely appreciate the feedback. Recruiting > Rant
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:46 am to Alt26
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If he is at 350, that is a BIG problem! That's significnatly overweight. Hell, 330 is significantly overweight.
He needs to be down to at least 320. Ideally, particularly for someone who isn't that tall (relatively speaking) you want him between 305 and 315.
No.
305?
You want him to lose 50 lbs? There is no cookie cutter for body type. He'll be perfect around 320-330.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:04 pm to WhereDaGoldAt
He's as close to the prototypical guard in the SEC as you can get. And football-wise it's his attitude, his love of the brutality of the sport, that will have him be an eventual All-SEC performer. He's that guy you don't want to be across from in one-on-one drills, you might stop and tie your shoes so you get another guy. He needs to get in excellent physical condition, learn the importance of diet, and he needs experience.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:14 pm to WhereDaGoldAt
You know what you don’t see? Him getting beat. He’s a beast.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:07 pm to WhereDaGoldAt
He doesn’t need to lose as much weight as people think. He will be big even when he’s in shape. He’s a worker. It won’t take long. I don’t think anyone should waste their time worrying about Kardell. He’ll be fine.
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