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re: Just look at how well that 3 star de did in spring game--Justin Thomas

Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:26 am to
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14475 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:26 am to
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The concern I have is not how many three stars we have but how many top committed recruits we have at the moment. I know we are in the running for a few 5 stars but we also know how a lot of those pan out as well. Last year our average was at 91.4, this year is 88.4 (only 2 recruits in the top 200). Still a long year to go, I'm sure O and co will finish the class off strong

You are comparing LSU's final 2017 ranking to the current one in June. It's not an accurate comparison. Even if no one moved up in ranking and we signed Surtain and Marshall, the composite would jump quite a bit. It's way too early. We just have to let this play out. Between O, Austin Thomas, Meatball and Robinson, we will do just fine before all is said and done.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:09 am to
Yep I think he just countered his argument without even knowing it lol. This thing is not over far from it. If we landed 2 high 90s guys like Surtain and Marshall our average would jump to around 91 in June lmao.

This staff will NOT magically stop evaluating talent and if some guys fail to develop you will likely see a tweet that's says something like this, "after many discussions with my parents and prayers I have decided that reopening my recruitment is best for me and my family". Have a long ways to go yet peeps.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12262 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:16 am to
Who?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14475 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:29 am to
BTW, we have 2 5Stars and 2 4Stars already committed for 2019. We are the only team with 2 5Star commits at this point.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:33 am to
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This will end up a top 15 class.
+1....can't be top 3 if you aren't top 15
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:03 am to
I already know, I'm not one bit concerned. Recruiting is so fluid, some will rise, some will fall, some won't even be here, and we'll add new names. I mean even if we had a full class now, I would bet 5 or more wouldn't be here by the end of it and we would have 5 or more new names at the end.

Out of the class we have now there will probably be 3 that don't make it for what ever reasons. LSU will garner more attention during the season as it plays out then so will recruits that have yet to play their senior seasons or camp then you have visits so there's a ways to go.

The only thing people should be concerned with is how hard this staff is working on the recruiting trail. It's a damn fine job. They are apparently busy which is what you want. HTT
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7456 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:42 am to
Justin Thomas
Posted by Ed O Mania
Member since Jan 2017
62 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:50 am to
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Last year our average was at 91.4, this year is 88.4


Just give it time, the averages will come up as the players get bumped. I could easily see us beat last year's 91.4.

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8 of the 13 have already been bumped to 4 stars in the ESPN 300. These same 8 will all be bumped per Dixon on 247.


This is all before their senior year. I'm sure some of them will fall in the rankings, but I expect the majority to continue to move up. Long way to go til signing day...
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:20 pm to
That kid was vastly under rated.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 4:54 am to
Everyone is not shiteing on O because of three star recruits , they are shiteing on him over a 3-21 record in the SEC as the HC running his own program.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:02 am to
Exactly. So take that shite to the coaching changes board.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:54 am to
Harping on Orgeron's Ole Miss record while overlooking his interim record at two high profile programs (both under very adverse circumstances) is just as naive as the Herman fans focusing on Herman beating OU and Louisville but overlooking him getting beat by UConn, SMU, Navy, and Memphis. They also overlook the fact that most of his wins were against creampuffs like Tulane, Lamar, Texas State, Tulsa, etc.

And Hillary won the popular vote. So what.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 9:01 am
Posted by FL tigers 321
the BREvard
Member since Dec 2013
513 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 9:14 am to
What people don't realize is that recruiting rankings depend on two things besides actual talent.

1. How many offers you have. The more offers you have the more interest you bring to their site. On top of that they can rank you high and say look at all the schools that want him they can't all be wrong. See Priest Willis, Max Browne, Asante Wullard, Chris Davenport.

2. How early you commit.
It's hard to sell subscriptions to multiple sites with a kid who has been committed for over a year. Guice decommited from LSU at a point because his ranking was dropping. Then he played like he was interested in Bama and his ranking went back up.

The recruiting services want guys that have a bunch of offers and can't decide on a school to be ranked higher, they come with more stories; which means more subscriptions.

Once upon a time everyone cried because we only have 12 commits at this time. Once upon a time everyone cried about kids still taking trips to other schools or putting %'s on how committed they are. Now you all are crying because we have too many recruits and they aren't ranked where you want.

I guess you all are going to find a reason to complain about something
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27908 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 10:54 am to
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Sure why not.

Okay, going by the composite you have under 5, I have over, and exactly 5 is a push. What is the price?
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