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re: Jabiari Tyler (Herb's son) - When does this young man get some looks?

Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15070 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Please explain this reasoning, and congratulations on being such a superb evaluator of talent.


First, Thank you.... and here's your explanation.

Having below average size there has to be something that sets you apart from other players. Without knocking on Jabiari, b/c he's an extremely talented HS football player, Tridon's speed is literally a game changer. Who cares if he was an "after thought". He got a scholarship and is one of the best returners in LSU history.

I don't know why you're getting so frustrated over a seemingly really good kid who just doesn't have the size or speed to be play for a big time college team.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 2:18 pm
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11013 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:35 pm to
I think u replied to the wrong person.
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:44 pm to
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He is listed at 5-9, but in reality he is likely 5-7. All I can say is I have seen him play, and he is a play maker. Great vision. Great arm strength. Great quickness....almost as if he is on a different level of those around him in 2A. And I realize it's 2A.
he plays for the same school obj came from....herb is one of my favorite lsu players and is a big fan and ambassador for the tigers..... I hope the best for his son and if he has to play for a smaller school I hope herb doesn't hold it against lsu....
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
8047 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:50 pm to
You (not LaBornNRaised) can't deny his numbers from his intros

2012 - Sophomore (8.5 Games Played)
36 Passing TDs
9 Rushing TDs
6 INT

2013 - Junior
37 Passing TDs
8 Rushing TDs
4 INT
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:19 pm to
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I don't know why you're getting so frustrated over a seemingly really good kid who just doesn't have the size or speed to be play for a big time college team.
4.4 is not good enough speed now. Got it.
Not frustrated at all, just amazed at all the experts on here.
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
3246 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:56 pm to
I'm impressed by his pocket presence and his ability to make more than one read before running with the ball. That tells me he actually understands the quarterback position and isn't just an athlete playing QB.

He puts great touch on the ball and seems to be pretty accurate (then again this is a highlight reel).












This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
4794 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:09 pm to
I absolutely know nothing about this kid, but his father was one of the truest Tigers I've ever had the privilege of watching.

UF, in particular, used to cheap-shot Herb every chance they got. He'd be battered & exhuasted...and STILL step up to the line, take the snap, and hang right in there while they bared down on him.

I frickin' LOVE Herb Tyler!!!

Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:27 pm to
A fine young man; no doubt the result of his father's tutelage. The old adage has never been more accurate, like father, like son.

Reality is he does not have the size for LSU, without a position change. I am sure he has sights on more than just a specialist. He will get get that opportunity somewhere. In what seems like another life & Texas exile, I used to do a recruiting seminar for a group of high schools. The message I hope they heard was, if you want to play college ball, there is a place to play - it might not be LSU, Tx or A&M, but there is a place to play.

Tulane would be be a fit & certainly the Ivy League. Don't be surprised to see Ga. Tech & the military academies show some love. I am hoping he gets a call from Stanford & just ask, "Where do I sign"?

Herb is an intelligent, warm, caring Tiger alumni & dad. No one understands and accepts the reality more than he.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15070 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:24 pm to
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4.4 is not good enough speed now. Got it.
Not frustrated at all, just amazed at all the experts on here.


4.4 is good speed... But, at 5'6 if he wants to hear from bigger schools he needs to be faster. I know you don't like to hear this, but I've coached many kids who are 5'7-9 weigh in between 160-180 and run legit 4.4's. None of them went anywhere big to play. 4.4 at camps is 4.5/4.6 in pads. McNeese, Grambling , Southern, and LC are the schools they get looked at by.

I'm not saying he can't play college ball.
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
8047 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:54 pm to
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I know you don't like to hear this, but I've coached many kids who are 5'7-9 weigh in between 160-180 and run legit 4.4's. None of them went anywhere big to play. 4.4 at camps is 4.5/4.6 in pads.


How many kids did you coach put up better season numbers than Peyton and Eli Manning....and can run 4.4 speed?

Post some names, b/c I am intrigued. I personally haven't seen talent like Jay's in a while - in a guy his size. He just takes over games...plain and simple.

Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:21 pm to
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2013 Highlights



Wow! I'm impressed I don't care how tall he is.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15070 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:32 pm to
If he grows to 5'9, 5'10 I can surely see him getting looks from major schools to play WR or DB.

Please stop acting like I have something personal against this kid. He has put some great numbers up.....and his team is VASTLY better than the other teams they played.

I just went to the rivals and hit quick search on WR's.
1. 6 kids out of 1,143 WR's are ranked under 5'8
2. only two have committed to Ball St and San Jose St.


You just don't see kids under 5'8 make it to major college football often at all. AND THAT IS ALL IM SAYING!!!!!

This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:48 pm to
Why are you getting so frustrated, lol??
I think we all know he probably won't be what LSU needs, but what the ex-teammates of Herb think is that out of respect, LSU should give him some attention like our biggest competitor has, that's all. It might help him get more looks if LSU shows a little interest.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8782 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:00 pm to
Not really sure if he'll be good enough to play at LSU, but I have no doubt Les will do what he can to help out the son of a great Tiger.

Les has plenty of contacts from his days coaching, both in Louisiana and out of state. He can make some calls and get the word out about Jabiari so he lands in a great situation where he can play and play his position of choice.
Posted by phison
Member since Dec 2011
619 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:21 pm to
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I don't know. a lot of those guys see it as disrespect that LSU hasn't made any kind of move on him especially after bama had him for a visit this season.


He visited LSU this season for at least one game this season, I know that.

Sounds like LSU is on him just as much as Bama.


I understand he isn't being highly recruited by LSU right now, but he's also c/o 2015. The staff has been recruiting juniors, but not like 2014 kids. The '15 kids recruiting will really start to pick up after signing day. Not many instate kids are being pressed right now, only a few have offers. Wait until the Boys of the Boot, I'm sure theres a good chance Tyler attends.

Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5263 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 11:40 pm to
video is impressive, but i just don't see him at an SEC level. I see him at a conference USA school like Tulane, Southern Miss, Etc. Im not a professional scout though so take what i say with a grain of salt.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116158 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 11:45 pm to
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He visited LSU this season for at least one game this season, I know that. Sounds like LSU is on him just as much as Bama.


I dont think either team is really "on him"
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34969 posts
Posted on 12/28/13 at 6:58 am to
We didn't offer Bert jones' brother

Also if he really was a d1 player and he is not surrounded by retards how did his team lose to Opelousas Catholic?

I like herb. Friend of mine coached him in playground ball another in hS


Jay is a good kid -
This post was edited on 12/28/13 at 7:06 am
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
8047 posts
Posted on 12/28/13 at 9:46 am to
So, the argument is he is not D1 talent because Newman lost to OC in a playoff game? Damn, guess Duece Wallace and all the talent at Riverside aren't D1 prospects either since they lost to STA in the first round too.

I was at the game, and Jay had a decent game. Only problem is they started almost every drive inside their own 20, and OC probably had the ball 34 minutes to Newmans 14. OC was in I formation and simply drove the ball on the short field they had due to Newman punting issues. Not to mention Newman had a safety on a snap and a missed extra point....3 given to OC and Newman lost by 2.

I'll make a prediction - this film gets out and he starts getting looks...you ready for this...at QB.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21510 posts
Posted on 12/28/13 at 9:52 am to
This kid could probably shred it at Navy, SMU, or similar.

So is he 5'6" or 5'9"?
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