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re: How refreshing is it to be able to trust the staff’s evals over the recruiting services?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:42 pm to lsufanva
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:42 pm to lsufanva
Sam was 6-3 260, mingo was 6-5 245.
Wiggins and Womack are the same size 6-5 250-260 they are versatile players. Throw in the rest of the class last year and you have a well balanced DL. You are by far one of the most negative shite posters on this board, it’s no wonder you look for opportunity to be a contrarian
Wiggins and Womack are the same size 6-5 250-260 they are versatile players. Throw in the rest of the class last year and you have a well balanced DL. You are by far one of the most negative shite posters on this board, it’s no wonder you look for opportunity to be a contrarian
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:44 pm to Tigerfan14
Swinson and shand are both bigger than Womack and Wiggins.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:45 pm to DCtiger1
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Sam was 6-3 260, mingo was 6-5 245. Wiggins and Womack are the same size 6-5 250-260 they are versatile players. Throw in the rest of the class last year and you have a well balanced DL. You are by far one of the most negative shite posters on this board, it’s no wonder you look for opportunity to be a contrarian
Yeah Montgomery and Mingo were arguably the best DE tandem ever at LSU. These idiots don’t know what they’re talking about.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:52 pm to DCtiger1
Shand isn’t a Jack either. Unless Wiggins and Womack lost weight this offseason, they would both be some of the largest Jack linebackers in college football. If they play Jack, it will be situationally. They won’t be there for 3 downs.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:53 pm to Dragula
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Yeah screw them 5-star players, give me the unranked to 2-star guys with heart that want to play for LSU!
LSU has the #6 class, jackass.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:01 pm to 00 Tech Grad
O had a shitton of bust. It’s much better to get a top 600 recruit that will be a solid contributor, and grab a game changing QB. Collins will likely anchor Texas dline for 4 years. But some of these 18 y.o. will go bust because of too much money too soon.
Kelly’s more long term oriented. We are still in on the QB from Michigan. And we might have the beginning of a pipeline into Duncanville, one of the top Texas high schools. Win a natty and the future is bright.
Kelly’s more long term oriented. We are still in on the QB from Michigan. And we might have the beginning of a pipeline into Duncanville, one of the top Texas high schools. Win a natty and the future is bright.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:14 pm to Tigerfan14
TD Article from 4 days ago
Quote from article (emphasis added):
LSU freshman defensive end DaShawn Womack is expected to be a significant force on the Tigers' defensive line but is also getting reps at the JACK linebacker position in practice.
The former five-star prospect from Baltimore, Md., was rated the No. 3 edge rusher in the country last year.
Quote from article (emphasis added):
LSU freshman defensive end DaShawn Womack is expected to be a significant force on the Tigers' defensive line but is also getting reps at the JACK linebacker position in practice.
The former five-star prospect from Baltimore, Md., was rated the No. 3 edge rusher in the country last year.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:16 pm to Tigerfan14
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Unless Wiggins and Womack lost weight this offseason, they would both be some of the largest Jack linebackers in college football. If they play Jack, it will be situationally. They won’t be there for 3 downs.
I would say the jury is still out on Womack
But definitely agree about Wiggins
Wiggins isn’t a Jack
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:23 pm to Curtis Lowe
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“I think he has some flexibility as a guy that can play the big end position, but we haven’t ruled out how we play him,” Kelly said. “Is he a stand-up, two-point player in a manner that he’s 100 percent of the time a jack linebacker? No, probably not. That doesn’t mean that we can’t be in four down and he can’t stand up and drop back in a limited fashion to change the looks up because he is so athletic.
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If they play Jack, it will be situationally. They won’t be there for 3 downs.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:06 am to Tigerfan14
Love that this thread went from “trust the staffs evals” to “the staff doesn’t know what they’re doing. We have no EDGEs” in less than 30 messages. Kudos.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 1:00 am to Tigerfan14
Is it unrealistic to think they might slim Womack down about 10-15 lbs?
This post was edited on 8/12/23 at 1:01 am
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:15 am to wadewilson
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Is it unrealistic to think they might slim Womack down about 10-15 lbs
Why you want to cut Womack's weight?
Ovie Oghoufo 6'4 250 DE/EDGE
Jaxon Howard 6'4 240 (got him listed as LB but he is an EDGE)
Bradyn Swinson 6'4 252 DE/EDGE
Wiggins 6'6 265 DE/EDGE all day long with his speed
Da Shawn Womack- 6'5 260 DE/EDGE all day long with his speed
Saivion Jones 6'6 280 DE
Saivion was playing the EDGE spot last year. Sure, he put on weight but what if he is still the same speed? OK, play him where Gaye was last year at DT and put Wiggins as his backup, then rotate Womack, Ovie, Howard and Swinson at EDGE.
Get a replacement EDGE for Simmons from high school and grab 1 in the portal for next year and grab 2 more high school DT/DL to go with the 3 we already have and get 1-2 more Interior DT in the portal.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 4:22 am to Dragula
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Yeah screw them 5-star players, give me the unranked to 2-star guys with heart that want to play for LSU!
First and foremost, please point out the 2 stars and I ranked guys in our ‘23 or ‘24 recruiting classes. Don’t be an arse.
And yes in a perfect world we would fill all our needs with nothing but 5 stars. I’m not arguing that statistically the more 5 stars you have the more likely you are to be successful. But I also agree as would anyone with a brain, with what Tech Grad was saying. Miles would have the #3 class but it would be all skill players. Then he would wiff on a QB who could actually get them the ball. He would wiff on an Oline to block for the QB and open running lanes for the RB. All he is saying is at least We now have a coach that actually builds a team cohesively.
Do we need an edge guy. Sure we do, but overall he has built a solid foundation for the future. Do you really think he was going to get tons of 5 stars last year in his first year. Quick panicking,
It’s only his second recruiting class and it’s still very damn good. We have seen consistent improvement in everything from recruiting to team building to on field product sine he took over the team. I believe we will continue to see it. Another very successful year this year and you likely start seeing us putting Bama and Georgia type classes together.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 6:55 am to Tigerfan14
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don’t think most of the guys understand that we run a 3-4 defense and your OLB is your edge rusher. Womack and Wiggins are not 3-4 edge rushers.
Dude they are practicing Womack at edge. He is 6’4” 240. That is ideal edge size. Like if you made an edge prototype that would pretty much be the exact size you would make him.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 7:41 am to lsufanva
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I guarantee you don't know what an "edge" by modern definition is(recruitmg services). It's a WDE or 3-4 Jack.
No. It's the guy responsible for the edge, and you have 2 of them. They come in different styles and flavors.
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Not Wiggins. He's a SDE. He and Savion Jones are essentially the same body and skillset. Neither translates to edge.
I will guarantee you Wiggins spends the vast majority of this year and next year at edge. SDE is still an edge unless he's overlapped by a rush Lb/edge (which would make him a DI, not a SDE/edge, if we're getting technical).
Posted on 8/12/23 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
Just so we’re all on the same page, EDGE became the new catch-all term for 4-3 and 3-4 pass rushers.
Our defense really only has one player that specifically fits that role and it’s the stand up position. It’s really a 3-3-5 defense with a 7/9 tech Jack linebacker on the far side. It’s different from a normal 3-4 because they generally don’t use even fronts. It’s a 1 tech, 3 tech, a 4i, and a 7/9 tech depending on personnel groupings.
Maason Smith and Jordan Jefferson are your 1 techs
Wingo and Jacobian Guillory at 3 tech
Saivion Jones and Quency Wiggins at the 4i position
Oghoufo, Swinson, and Womack are all competing for the Jack linebacker position. We need someone who can convert speed to power and be able to contain the edge vs the run. Womack is really exciting in that regard. I’m much more a proponent of having a bigger Jack linebacker more akin to a 4-3 guy than a smaller quick twitch guy.
Our defense really only has one player that specifically fits that role and it’s the stand up position. It’s really a 3-3-5 defense with a 7/9 tech Jack linebacker on the far side. It’s different from a normal 3-4 because they generally don’t use even fronts. It’s a 1 tech, 3 tech, a 4i, and a 7/9 tech depending on personnel groupings.
Maason Smith and Jordan Jefferson are your 1 techs
Wingo and Jacobian Guillory at 3 tech
Saivion Jones and Quency Wiggins at the 4i position
Oghoufo, Swinson, and Womack are all competing for the Jack linebacker position. We need someone who can convert speed to power and be able to contain the edge vs the run. Womack is really exciting in that regard. I’m much more a proponent of having a bigger Jack linebacker more akin to a 4-3 guy than a smaller quick twitch guy.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:34 am to LSUtiger89
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Dude they are practicing Womack at edge. He is 6’4” 240. That is ideal edge size. Like if you made an edge prototype that would pretty much be the exact size you would make him.
Sssssh, wouldn’t want to help them realize that Will Anderson was 6-4 253 and played edge
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:37 am to 00 Tech Grad
I worry a little less about the recruiting class when I know that LSU has dominated the transfer portal.
Bring in top 10 classes and use the portal to fill the gaps
Bring in top 10 classes and use the portal to fill the gaps
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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SDE is still an edge unless
No its not
Recruiting services and football coaches don't see it this way
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:43 am to Dubaitiger
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Saivion was playing the EDGE spot last year. Sure, he put on weight but what if he is still the same speed? OK, play him where Gaye was last year at DT
This it totally wrong
Gaye started at SDE and Jones was his backup last year
BJ and Perkins played edge
SDE is classified as a DL by recruiting services
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