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re: Garrett Nussmeier to LSU gaining steam
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:04 pm to Rosenblatt
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:04 pm to Rosenblatt
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Do you have info to suggest that LSU leads for Williams despite the insinuations of the the insiders that Brady leaving caused us to fall behind in this recruitment?
He is being courted heavily by Oklahoma who has always been, according to him, his dream school.
Nonetheless, he is still very much interested in LSU, as Joe Brady leaving didn't phase him. In fact, when asked about it, he said that expecting coaches to remain forever at the schools that are recruiting you is probably an unrealistic expectation to have. Not to mention, he spent four days at LSU in November. Hence, he knows who the OC and the QB coach is and he also knows that Joe Brady was the PGC.
By the way, I didn't hear the first insider say Caleb Williams is not interested in LSU anymore because Joe Brady left. I've heard a lot of clueless posters guess, speculate, and insinuate that assumption but none of them are insiders. Give me a break.
Not to mention, that when his dad talked about the excellent plan laid out to them by LSU, he mentions Steve Ensminger and Ed O by name, but he never mentions Joe Brady.
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Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:12 pm to NattyTiger19
You are taking what he said months ago and acting like it still stands
Also you can't believe everything these recruits say
How many times has o got left at the altar for believing these recruits and not having a backup.
I honestly believe coach o felt it this year, and will not make that mistake again.
Not looking like he is coming to lsu but I hope not
Also you can't believe everything these recruits say
How many times has o got left at the altar for believing these recruits and not having a backup.
I honestly believe coach o felt it this year, and will not make that mistake again.
Not looking like he is coming to lsu but I hope not
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:25 pm to Chalkywhite84
I agree.
I think taking Nuss if he’s ready to commit is absolutely the smart play. Nuss isn’t a backup option by any means.
I’d like to see Williams commit too but I don’t see it happening and frankly, his attitude about wanting everyone to wait on him before they take anyone else is a bit of a red flag imo.
He can stick to his timeline, nothing wrong with that, but don’t expect everyone else to put the needs of their program on hold for you. It seems like a rather self centered approach.
Coach O needs to do what’s best for LSU and cannot get left empty handed bc a kid who may not even come here doesn’t want him to take another quarterback commit until he decides. That’s pretty ridiculous when you really think about it.
I think taking Nuss if he’s ready to commit is absolutely the smart play. Nuss isn’t a backup option by any means.
I’d like to see Williams commit too but I don’t see it happening and frankly, his attitude about wanting everyone to wait on him before they take anyone else is a bit of a red flag imo.
He can stick to his timeline, nothing wrong with that, but don’t expect everyone else to put the needs of their program on hold for you. It seems like a rather self centered approach.
Coach O needs to do what’s best for LSU and cannot get left empty handed bc a kid who may not even come here doesn’t want him to take another quarterback commit until he decides. That’s pretty ridiculous when you really think about it.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:31 pm to Rosenblatt
People are saying it's down to lsu and Oklahoma
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:35 pm to Chalkywhite84
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You are taking what he said months ago and acting like it still stands
Also you can't believe everything these recruits say
How many times has o got left at the altar for believing these recruits and not having a backup.
I honestly believe coach o felt it this year, and will not make that mistake again.
You sound like one of those clueless insiders Rosenblatt is talking about.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:55 pm to Rosenblatt
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his attitude about wanting everyone to wait on him before they take anyone else is a bit of a red flag imo.
Attitude? Where did you hear he wanted everyone to wait on him? Give me a freaking break. That sounds like something you heard from one of your infamous insiders.
He has never said anything other than he is going to take his time and make sure he is committing to the right place before he commits to anyone so he won't end up having to de-commit.
You can't fault him or anyone else for that matter for being careful. Not to mention that there are no timelines other than the final signing day in February of 2021. As no schools can twist recruits' arms and force them to commit. It doesn't quite work that way, I'm afraid. By the same token, no recruit can force a coach to wait on him to make up his mind.
Not to mention that his football coach urged him to take his time and to make sure he commits to the right school so he doesn't end up de-committing. In my opinion, that's good advice.
In any event, I'm not worried about coach O being stiffed. He's been doing this for over thirty damn years. He knows how to play the game.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:21 pm to NattyTiger19
So you want your qb to wait till signing day in feb ?
I'd rather a qb to commit and start taking charge of the class
I'm not saying a qb has to commit today but sooner rather than later
I'd rather a qb to commit and start taking charge of the class
I'm not saying a qb has to commit today but sooner rather than later
Posted on 3/3/20 at 11:21 pm to Chalkywhite84
That's not what I said dammit. I said he has up until February of 2021 to make up his mind and he does. However, that's not what I hope for.
In fact, I really don't give a shite when Caleb commits cause I'm convinced he is very overrated.
When you watch his junior season video, he appears like an athlete substituting for a QB. As his pocket presence, if you can call it that and his throwing motion, at least at this stage of his career, are both extremely raw. Which makes his passing completion rate of only 56 percent very understandable. In my opinion, he is playing out of position.
While when you watch Garrett Nussmeier's junior film, Nussmeier looks like a much more polished QB relative to Williams. As Nussmeier's pocket presence and his throwing motion are night and day better relative to Williams. As Nussmeier is clearly a much better QB at this stage of his career.
Other than Caleb Williams' athletic ability, I don't know what the recruiting services are seeing in him. As again, to me, he doesn't even look like a QB when he plays but instead like an athlete substituting for a QB.
In fact, I really don't give a shite when Caleb commits cause I'm convinced he is very overrated.
When you watch his junior season video, he appears like an athlete substituting for a QB. As his pocket presence, if you can call it that and his throwing motion, at least at this stage of his career, are both extremely raw. Which makes his passing completion rate of only 56 percent very understandable. In my opinion, he is playing out of position.
While when you watch Garrett Nussmeier's junior film, Nussmeier looks like a much more polished QB relative to Williams. As Nussmeier's pocket presence and his throwing motion are night and day better relative to Williams. As Nussmeier is clearly a much better QB at this stage of his career.
Other than Caleb Williams' athletic ability, I don't know what the recruiting services are seeing in him. As again, to me, he doesn't even look like a QB when he plays but instead like an athlete substituting for a QB.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 3:27 am to NattyTiger19
Nussmeier has more than a few of Burrow's attributes:
-Son of a coach (current Dallas QB coach Doug Nussmeier)
-Accurate (66% comp rate) with terrific ball location/placement
-Routinely throws accurately on the run
-Can extend plays with his feet while still looking downfield
-Deep ball touch with multiple highlights of the ball traveling 55 yards in the air right in-stride to the WR
-Quick release under pressure in the pocket
-Gunslinger mentality
I'd be content if LSU ended up with a QB like that on the roster.
-Son of a coach (current Dallas QB coach Doug Nussmeier)
-Accurate (66% comp rate) with terrific ball location/placement
-Routinely throws accurately on the run
-Can extend plays with his feet while still looking downfield
-Deep ball touch with multiple highlights of the ball traveling 55 yards in the air right in-stride to the WR
-Quick release under pressure in the pocket
-Gunslinger mentality
I'd be content if LSU ended up with a QB like that on the roster.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:59 am to NattyTiger19
I agree with your assessment here and I’m not arguing with you. I’m sorry if it seems that way
It’s been widely rumored on pay sites that Williams crosses uga off bc they took another quarterback before he committed and he asked them not to do that
Supposedly that’s his request. That he be THE guy and that schools need to prove their commitment to him by not taking another QB until he has made his choice that way he knows he’s their top priority.
If 247 and others are credible, then I’m gonna have to say good luck to the kid but I’m not playing that game. I’m taking elite guys who want in and if there’s room for you when you’re ready then great, but I’m not turning guys like Nuss away.
It’s been widely rumored on pay sites that Williams crosses uga off bc they took another quarterback before he committed and he asked them not to do that
Supposedly that’s his request. That he be THE guy and that schools need to prove their commitment to him by not taking another QB until he has made his choice that way he knows he’s their top priority.
If 247 and others are credible, then I’m gonna have to say good luck to the kid but I’m not playing that game. I’m taking elite guys who want in and if there’s room for you when you’re ready then great, but I’m not turning guys like Nuss away.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 7:24 am to Rosenblatt
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Supposedly that’s his request. That he be THE guy and that schools need to prove their commitment to him by not taking another QB until he has made his choice that way he knows he’s their top priority.
Caleb if you're listening, if you want to be THE GUY, go ahead and commit to a team and prove that you are THEIR GUY.
It's really that simple.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 9:22 am to BayouCowboy
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Supposedly that’s his request. That he be THE guy and that schools need to prove their commitment to him by not taking another QB
If true, he's not a competitor.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 9:28 am to BayouCowboy
He's for sure listening. He has to blog about it at some point. 
Posted on 3/4/20 at 10:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
I say get Nuss on board and work the DFW for the Brockermeyer twins. Use Linehan and Daddy Nuss (Cowboys QB coach)and baby Nuss to put the full court press on our future OL commits.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:43 pm to NattyTiger19
We do not need a running QB. We need an accurate passer who,can process and make decisions.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 1:13 pm to mhc4tigers
I agree which is why I much prefer LSU goes after Nussmeier over Williams instead.
I mean go watch Williams' junior season video and then compare it to Nussmeier's junior season video. Williams' pocket presence and his throwing motion are raw as hell. In fact, he doesn't even look like a QB to me but instead, he looks like an athlete subbing for an injured QB. No wonder he only completed 56 percent of his passes.
Meanwhile, Nussmeier's pocket presence and throwing motion are astronomically far more advanced relative to Williams, and that also accounts for his excellent 67 percent completion percentage rate. It's very obvious that Nussmeier has been coached up by his dad and is exponentially far more advanced at QB relative to Williams.
In fact, I can't imagine what these recruiting services are seeing in Williams to rank him as a five star QB cause when he plays, he doesn't even look like a legit QB to me. They must be ranking him that high based only on his raw athleticism alone. Nonetheless, to me, he looks like a player playing out of position.
Had I not seen that he was a five star rated QB before I watched his video, I would have thought that he was someone subbing for an injured QB on an emergency basis.
I mean go watch Williams' junior season video and then compare it to Nussmeier's junior season video. Williams' pocket presence and his throwing motion are raw as hell. In fact, he doesn't even look like a QB to me but instead, he looks like an athlete subbing for an injured QB. No wonder he only completed 56 percent of his passes.
Meanwhile, Nussmeier's pocket presence and throwing motion are astronomically far more advanced relative to Williams, and that also accounts for his excellent 67 percent completion percentage rate. It's very obvious that Nussmeier has been coached up by his dad and is exponentially far more advanced at QB relative to Williams.
In fact, I can't imagine what these recruiting services are seeing in Williams to rank him as a five star QB cause when he plays, he doesn't even look like a legit QB to me. They must be ranking him that high based only on his raw athleticism alone. Nonetheless, to me, he looks like a player playing out of position.
Had I not seen that he was a five star rated QB before I watched his video, I would have thought that he was someone subbing for an injured QB on an emergency basis.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 1:22 pm to NattyTiger19
That’s pretty much what I see also. Williams ranking is a projection of future possibility
Posted on 3/4/20 at 3:37 pm to NattyTiger19
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fact, I can't imagine what these recruiting services are seeing in Williams to rank him as a five star QB
I agree. Not a popular opinion but Nuss looks far more polished.
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Then why do we agree with the services when the player is all LSU, then disagree with them when we commit a player that’s not ranked high as we think he should be. If 247 has him as a 5* and we get him “Damn right he’s a 5*”.
If all we say is true about recruiting services and Nuss commits then he will never be a 5*, because he’s not one now and surely won’t be one after he commits to LSU. On the other hand if CW commits to LSU he will no longer be the #1 DT QB right?????
If all we say is true about recruiting services and Nuss commits then he will never be a 5*, because he’s not one now and surely won’t be one after he commits to LSU. On the other hand if CW commits to LSU he will no longer be the #1 DT QB right?????
Posted on 3/4/20 at 5:31 pm to Sissidog02
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Then why do we agree with the services when the player is all LSU, then disagree with them when we commit a player that’s not ranked high as we think he should be. If 247 has him as a 5* and we get him “Damn right he’s a 5*”.
If all we say is true about recruiting services and Nuss commits then he will never be a 5*, because he’s not one now and surely won’t be one after he commits to LSU. On the other hand if CW commits to LSU he will no longer be the #1 DT QB right?????
Strawman argument. People disagree with rankings all the time, from both angles.
If you don't just look at rankings, there are some absolute factors that make Nussmeier appear much better than his ranking.
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