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Frank Wilson - On SEC Network Yesterday talking about developing talent
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:22 pm
He referred to great recruiting classes (never mentioned LSU) for teams but the players do not get developed and progress. It was easy to know what he was referring to IMO. Who else could he be referring to. Seems like 'O' is correcting that issue. He was answering a recruiting question about what reasons he can give to highschool senior to come to UTSA.
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:24 pm to texastigerr
Take Chavis for example. He has had great success when talent was there. He can't coach it up though. Too many people rely on great talent to make them look good.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:46 pm to texastigerr
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It was easy to know what he was referring to IMO. Who else could he be referring to.
Who do you think he was referring to?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:10 pm to moneyg
Ole Miss
Wilson and O got a lot of under the radar guys out of LA and FLA and developed them into some pretty good SEC players, O was on Drake Nevis before anyone else.
Wilson and O got a lot of under the radar guys out of LA and FLA and developed them into some pretty good SEC players, O was on Drake Nevis before anyone else.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:23 pm to texastigerr
quote:can you specifically point to one example on offense? Go back to last year.
Seems like 'O' is correcting that issue.
Guice? No
Any OLinemen? No
Etling? No - his was health
Receivers? He admitted to this saying he doesn't have 4 that he trusts and several have been there more than a year.
Beossette gotten any better? No
So do tell.... what offensive talent have we "noticeably developed".
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:44 pm to Tiger1988
quote:Don't be miserable.
Tiger1988
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:48 pm to Tiger1988
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what offensive talent have we "noticeably developed"
Saahdiq Charles
Edward Ingram
Derrick Dillon
Drake Davis
Jacoby Stevens
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
You think it's normal for this many true freshmen to be playing such meaningful roles on an extremely good football team?
And our receiving core, which was thought to be a big time weakness this year, has looked tremendous. I don't think they've had a single dropped pass yet. When's the last time we could say that? You don't think coaching has anything to do with that?
I'm by no means a sunshine pumper, but those young guys have looked very well coached up to me.
Edit: I can't believe I forgot about Sullivan's drop. That one was bad. Other than that, the WRs have far exceeded my expectations. Thanks tigeralum06 for the reminder.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:49 pm to whitefoot
quote:Buried on the bench under the last staff. Brumfield, too, to an extent.
Derrick Dillon
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:23 pm to Tiger1988
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So do tell.... what offensive talent have we "noticeably developed".
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/dj-chark-moving-up-draft-boards/72168956/
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The scoop: LSU's hiring of offensive coordinator Matt Canada (previously at Pitt) after last season is already creating vertical opportunities for LSU WR D.J. Chark. Some in the scouting community believe he will fly up draft boards thanks to his speed and ability to return punts.
The skinny: I rated Chark the No. 6 WR to watch heading into the season, but that already seems to be too low, according to what I'm hearing from scouts. Chark has blazing speed and saw 8 of his 26 catches in 2016 go for 25 yards or more. Through two games this season, Chark is averaging 25.7 yards per catch (7 grabs for 180 yards) and returned two punts for touchdowns in last weekend's win over Chattanooga (although one was called back on a penalty). Matt Canada's offense allows for more frequent shots down the field off of play-action. With RB Derrius Guice forcing safeties to creep near the line of scrimmage for run support, Chark could be in for a big season and a trip up draft boards.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:34 pm to whitefoot
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I don't think they've had a single dropped pass yet.
I'm guessing you left the Chattanooga game early.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:23 pm to tigeralum06
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I'm guessing you left the Chattanooga game early.
Haha. Wow. I can't believe I forgot about that one! To be honest, the one that stuck in my mind was Moreau's against BYU, but obviously he's not a WR.
Edit: put Moore instead of Moreau
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:53 pm to Tiger1988
Our whole team literally looks much faster, they play smarter, they look technically sound, our OL looked very good against BYU, we'll see in this game.
Our RB depth and WR depth is much much better now. Guice looks stronger, Williams looks leaner, White is leading the LBs as a sophomore. Our DBs are stepping up as well. O is making these guys compete now, there jobs aren't going to be given to them just bc they started last year, that means the older guys will have to start playing hard, and practicing hard like the younger guys to keep their spots. This will improve our team tremendously.
Dude STFU, you make yourself look so ignorant. You know nothing about football OBVIOUSLY. Man you're one of the most loud but idiotic people in this place and that's saying something.
Our RB depth and WR depth is much much better now. Guice looks stronger, Williams looks leaner, White is leading the LBs as a sophomore. Our DBs are stepping up as well. O is making these guys compete now, there jobs aren't going to be given to them just bc they started last year, that means the older guys will have to start playing hard, and practicing hard like the younger guys to keep their spots. This will improve our team tremendously.
Dude STFU, you make yourself look so ignorant. You know nothing about football OBVIOUSLY. Man you're one of the most loud but idiotic people in this place and that's saying something.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:25 pm to whitefoot
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And our receiving core, which was thought to be a big time weakness this year, has looked tremendous. I don't think they've had a single dropped pass yet.
Sullivan is obvious, but if TE/F-Back considered in the "receiving core", then Foster Moreau dropped one early against BYU (square in his hands).
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:37 pm to alumni95
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Foster Moreau
I wasn't counting that one. I was talking wr only.
Posted on 9/16/17 at 8:06 am to texastigerr
You don't lead the colleges with players in the NFL if you are not developing talent! LSU has more players in the NFL than any other school by far. So thats just BS
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:15 am to Tiger Ree
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Some in the scouting community believe he will fly up draft boards thanks to his speed and ability to return punts
Speed is not something you coach or develop
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:19 am to Clark W Griswold
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Take Chavis for example. He has had great success when talent was there. He can't coach it up though
What does that even mean: lol:
He had some pretty good defenses here, some "coaching up" was involved.
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:56 am to texastigerr
Miles hired some bad assistant coaches at times. Hard to say why; could be due to recruiting responsibilities being more important than technique during certain times in his tenure.
The bad hires such as DJ McCarthy, Earl Lane, Tony Ball, Don Yanoesky, and BDP show up directly as bad results from their position groups on the field.
Conversely, Miles hired some great on field coaches that didn't want to recruit. Cooper, Henry, McGaughey come to mind. We've had some great results from those position groups during their tenures. But they didn't stick around long and went to the NFL.
The bad hires such as DJ McCarthy, Earl Lane, Tony Ball, Don Yanoesky, and BDP show up directly as bad results from their position groups on the field.
Conversely, Miles hired some great on field coaches that didn't want to recruit. Cooper, Henry, McGaughey come to mind. We've had some great results from those position groups during their tenures. But they didn't stick around long and went to the NFL.
Posted on 9/16/17 at 9:58 am to TigerRagAndrew
Miles lack of success since 2014 corresponds directly with an inability to pass block at the tackle position. Hawkins and Alexander were not good at that when they were here.
Air Coryell has many long and slow developing pass routes. Can't run that offense if you can't block people
Air Coryell has many long and slow developing pass routes. Can't run that offense if you can't block people
Posted on 9/16/17 at 2:43 pm to TigerRagAndrew
I don't think you can say L.M. Didn't develop talent when LSU has more players in the NFL than anyone else.
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