re: Don't let anyone tell you that 5* recruits don't matter.

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There are more 4 stars and below sitting in the audience in New York City every year for the Heisman ceremony than there are 5 stars sitting in the audience.

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Good job, just like there are more professional sports franchises in NYC than there are in Peoria, Kansas. Any guess why that might be?

I see the point you’re trying to connect there bud, but you can’t.

There are more 4 star and below heisman finalists flying to New York City for the Heisman year in and year out because the number of recruiting stars doesn’t matter. It’s all in the player development.

You are more likely to fly players that were rated 4 stars and below to NYC than you are to fly a 5 star recruit up there. 4 star and below are more likely to be your breakout players.

For every Harold Perkins there are 5 Gunner Keils, Lache Seastrunks, Chris Davenport, Ryan Perilloux, etc

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There are more 4 star and below heisman finalists flying to New York City for the Heisman year in and year out because the number of recruiting stars doesn’t matter. It’s all in the player development.

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No there are more 3 and 4 stars period. Every year there are only 30-35 five star players 250-300 4 stars and thousands of 3 stars. Of course ther are more 4/3 stars competing for the Heisman playing and in the NFL If it was all “development” why would anyone waste money recruiting? Not everyone is as good as they will ever be at 17. It also takes work and luck (not getting hurt for example). But a much higher percentage of 5 stars succeed at a high level

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For every Harold Perkins there are 5 Gunner Keils, Lache Seastrunks, Chris Davenport, Ryan Perilloux, etc

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And for every 4 star the makes the Heisman ceremony there are hundreds you’ve never heard of.

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All they take are four players as finalists per year and across four classes, the five star club still manages less players than the four and below club.

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I’m stepping out of this thread now

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Of course because your last point here fails to address the fact there are 10 times as many 4 stars every year it not development it’s numbers

Ah to be honest he is right in a way. TX AGGIES got 8 FIVE Stars & 20 FOUR Stars for the 2022 recruiting ranking that committed to their school. All that talent and nothing to show for the tx aggies.

Exceptions neither prove or disprove any rule. The perfect is not the enemy of the good. A much higher percentage of 5 stars become college stars and first round picks. Pointing to 5 stars the bust is simplistic and missing the bigger picture.

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Bama has won so much under Saban because of 3 star development.

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If it was just development he wouldn’t waste time recruiting 5* QBs from Hawaii and California. He wouldn’t waste time recruiting at all. It’s such an absurd argument to say “stars don’t matter” it ls the ultimate cherry picking argument

I know. He’s making a ridiculous argument. Saban is arguably the best college football coach in history so using his logic you could make him the head coach of Wyoming and they would be national champs. Assuming they continue with normal 2 and 3 star recruiting classes.