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Do we have better NIL capabilities than people made it seem at first?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 am
We seem to be on fire right now on the recruiting trail. I remember people saying recruiting would take a big hit because we didn’t have a very high ceiling with NIL. But we are killing it right now, so is our NIL better than what people would make it seem?
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:32 am to burreauxsballz
GET GORDON, GET IT DONE
GET GORDON, GET IT DONE
GET GORDON, GET IT DONE
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:34 am to burreauxsballz
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Do we have better NIL capabilities than people made it seem at first?
Yes.
I love our passionate fanbase, but we oftentimes suffer from Chicken Little Syndrome.
We may have started behind some of our peers, but we were never going to stay behind them. It’s exactly what Kelly said when he was introduced as coach: every single person affiliated with the university, top down, is committed to winning.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:35 am to PenguinPubes
Used to hate that baw. But I don’t give a rip now, GET IT DONE 
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:37 am to ibldprplgld
I also think some people are assuming all these kids are getting 500k+ NIL deals.
We are seeing 4* kids getting deals for less; and the market will adjust as NIL settles in.
It’s the big 2-3MM deals with the #1 players in the country that are skewing the perception.
We have the money to reel in 4* kids and the handful of 5* we are in the running for.
We are seeing 4* kids getting deals for less; and the market will adjust as NIL settles in.
It’s the big 2-3MM deals with the #1 players in the country that are skewing the perception.
We have the money to reel in 4* kids and the handful of 5* we are in the running for.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:39 am to burreauxsballz
Louisiana's NIL laws put LSU at a disadvantage last year relative to other states.
This past summer, however, is when John Bel signed a new NIL into law that gave collectives more power and provided a significant loosening of the restrictions around NIL in the state.
Shortly thereafter is when we started to get a string of commitments. Mickens, Jalen Brown, Womack, Kaleb Jackson, etc, all started committing within weeks of the new NIL law in Louisiana going into effect.
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This past summer, however, is when John Bel signed a new NIL into law that gave collectives more power and provided a significant loosening of the restrictions around NIL in the state.
Shortly thereafter is when we started to get a string of commitments. Mickens, Jalen Brown, Womack, Kaleb Jackson, etc, all started committing within weeks of the new NIL law in Louisiana going into effect.
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This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:40 am to ibldprplgld
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I love our passionate fanbase, but we oftentimes suffer from Chicken Little Syndrome.
LOL this is so true.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:43 am to burreauxsballz
We didn't have the structure because O said to just call Derek 
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:09 pm to burreauxsballz
Alot of people think that because of Louisiana's lack of major businesses that we wouldn't have money like aTm and Texas, USC, etc, but those guys may be overspending now. We'll have enough money to get who we want when everything settles. USC had had one collective disband, and they've had issues other than that. aTm overspent on their class last year and they'll probably lose half of it this year. We're right where we need to be. CBK isn't going to okay with paying a player that's just coming for a paycheck.
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:10 pm to burreauxsballz
I think the biggest thing right now is having a staff that players and parents really trust. The NIL will take care of itself, but I feel as of programs like A&M and Miami that have this deep pocket NIL initiative lack a staff that can create a great degree of trust paired with a great plan. Almost every recruit/parent of recruit that signed with LSU raved about a plan Coach Kelly presented them. That is more valuable than large sums.
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:24 pm to Yaboylsu63
Gordon actually preached this at the NIL function a year ago. We lost the RB to Miami to a pittance NIL deal. He implored BR business owners to offer whatever you could. Even if it’s $1000, that matters to these kids.
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:43 pm to burreauxsballz
When NIL was first being utilized, we had state laws that effectively limited our effectiveness. Those laws were changed to reflect the needs of the university, and from that time on we've been able to at least be competitive.
Make no mistake, we will never outbid A&M etc, but we also have more to offer than just NIL money, and that is where we are winning these battles. The money is close enough, and everything else we have to offer puts over the top, especially with the kinds of kids this staff tries to hone in on.
Make no mistake, we will never outbid A&M etc, but we also have more to offer than just NIL money, and that is where we are winning these battles. The money is close enough, and everything else we have to offer puts over the top, especially with the kinds of kids this staff tries to hone in on.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:55 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I think the biggest thing right now is having a staff that players and parents really trust.
Agree with this. I think the NIL is overblown - basically just bringing into the open what was already done and giving the kids more (legal) options outside of boosters.
It's transfers that are having the much bigger impact on how recruiting works.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 1:07 pm to burreauxsballz
No because anyone who followed the recruiting knew the reason LSU was slow is because they had legislation laws blocking them. Once that got cleaned up in June everything blew up.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 1:41 pm to burreauxsballz
They do
But it’s also not as much of a factor as people think
But it’s also not as much of a factor as people think
Posted on 11/4/22 at 2:23 pm to burreauxsballz
Three things contributed to our slow start with NIL:
1) The original law restricted the school from organizing NIL. That changed.
2) The NCAA violations for basketball being grouped together with football. We were under investigation and had to lay low. NCAA put us on probation in September. It still may not be over for football, but I believe we are in the clear for the most part as it relates to football.
3) The coaching transition. We focused on our current commitments to finish off the 2022 class. We stockpiled NIL cash and waited for the new coach to arrive and do his own evaluations.
Fans are reactionary, but really we were just waiting for the right time. There are haves, and have nots. We have been a have for 2+ decades and will continue to be. Remember, NIL just made it legal and brought it to the surface. It’s always been around.
1) The original law restricted the school from organizing NIL. That changed.
2) The NCAA violations for basketball being grouped together with football. We were under investigation and had to lay low. NCAA put us on probation in September. It still may not be over for football, but I believe we are in the clear for the most part as it relates to football.
3) The coaching transition. We focused on our current commitments to finish off the 2022 class. We stockpiled NIL cash and waited for the new coach to arrive and do his own evaluations.
Fans are reactionary, but really we were just waiting for the right time. There are haves, and have nots. We have been a have for 2+ decades and will continue to be. Remember, NIL just made it legal and brought it to the surface. It’s always been around.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 1:10 am to Cs
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This past summer, however, is when John Bel signed a new NIL into law that gave collectives more power and provided a significant loosening of the restrictions around NIL in the state. Shortly thereafter is when we started to get a string of commitments. Mickens, Jalen Brown, Womack, Kaleb Jackson, etc, all started committing within weeks of the new NIL law in Louisiana going into effect.
This was critical. We didn’t have the strictest law on the books, but it did put us at a disadvantage compared to the SEC school we routinely fight for recruits. Other states like Florida also changed their laws earlier than LA did. But they got it done and you can see the difference it has made.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:46 am to burreauxsballz
People freaked out because we weren’t immediately competing with aTm. We weren’t just throwing out bags of cash like an Oprah giveaway so we must have been doing it wrong
You still want kids that want to play football, and for that you need a more comprehensive package than a sack of cash.
NIL has shaken things up, IMO it still will mean the end of college football as we knew it, but our fan base overreacted (imagine that) to aTm which made it seem like we didn’t have a plan.
You still want kids that want to play football, and for that you need a more comprehensive package than a sack of cash.
NIL has shaken things up, IMO it still will mean the end of college football as we knew it, but our fan base overreacted (imagine that) to aTm which made it seem like we didn’t have a plan.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:16 am to burreauxsballz
Going forward, it will be hard to recruit the same level of talent now that we are a small program. In the future, we may need to recruit a higher caliber kid to fit our system. It's too early to make that judgment on this class, but have no doubt, we will be able to recruit a very talented group of kids in the future.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:23 am to PenguinPubes
I don't think NIL is as big a deal as we thought is was going to be. It looks like you only have to come up with a good offer on a top 100 player. That's maybe 5 or 6 players per season. 200 thru 400 ranked players don't require much ,if anything. 3 star players beg for an LSU offer. 1 thru 30 - five stars ,and you may be getting a primadonna that's hard to coach and may not put in the work required to live up to their raning - bama has a dozen of these. I don't think it's hard for LSU to come up with 5 or 6 good deals. Last year when it was new, A&M thought they had to pay off every player. They wasted a ton of money on the players and the coaches, but they have it to waste. BK will get the deals where it's needed and it's not needed on every player. Toviano and Harbor will need one though.
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