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re: Dexter Blackmon commits..

Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:25 am to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:25 am to
you have to love the complete fricking meltdown over 1 commit
Posted by seeLSUrun
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
23038 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:25 am to
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You forgot a few keep people that had heard of Blackmon before yesterday--Les Miles and his coaching staff, who saw him firsthand at camp, just like they did Matthieu. And Miles and his staff could give a rat's arse about stars or public perception. And coaches that think for themselves and make decisions based upon firsthand knowledge is, by the way, a good thing.

like i said, i dont have an opiion since i have sseen zero film on him. at this point i trust the staff but i dont see anything exceptional about him size wise or offer wise to make me happy about this
Posted by seeLSUrun
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:26 am to
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you have to love the complete fricking meltdown over 1 commit

with the very few spots we have left its just confusing
Posted by triplesauce
new york
Member since Oct 2006
1471 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:27 am to
I said above that one sleeper that comes to mind is Lafell. A3-star recruit who had film that you could look at say -- wow that guy can catch and he's pretty fast for a tall skinny guy.

But this is really unbelievable.

MIles has been a fantastic recruiter. Fantastic.

But, so has Stovall, Dinardo, Arnsparger, Hallman, Archer and Saban. The cupboard has never been bare.

And most of those guys didn't have an academic center to do it with.

No one should ever get a pat on the back for recruiting well here. It's almost automatic.

Last year Miles passed on Sentimore who apparently wanted to come here and who alleged grades issues did not prevent him from going to Alabama. There should be only one reason for us to sign a recruit and that is because he is the best player at that position, (character, grades etc. factored) available to us. Hard to believe that Blackmon is that guy given the exhaustive saturation of whispers, media, rumors etc. If he, is then fine.
But I worry that a lot of Miles selections look like the recruiting equivalent of executing a fake field goal against Steve Spurrier. (It appears we lost both Pratt and Michaels for hopes of sricking it to Saban on Trent Richardson).

Miles should be praised for running Jimbo out of town, hiring Crowton, recognizing immediately that the co-DCs were a disaster and hiring Chavis, and the overall administration of the team, the famous press conference and many more things...oh, the national championship, that's right.

Maybe he is crazy like a fox.

In my mind his supposedly wacky calls on the field have all been justified, if not by their results, then by the actual probabilities and the other benefits of playing aggressively

I can't justify this at all. (We're really not going to recruit Broussard or any of the other DLs???)

As with stocks, or anything else, I trust the index far more than one person's opinion or theory. Hope it works out.









This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 9:34 am
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:29 am to
You have to think that the following guys have spots reserved and the coaches see at least a 33% chance of getting their signatures: Shaw, Seastrunk, Reed.

Then, there are guys like Dickson, Byran Jones, Storm, and one of the OLBs that are also interested in LSU, and this is definitely surprising considering the 19 other commitments.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:43 am to
I keep reading that the recruiting services have like 5000 player profiles and the fact that they didn't have one on Blackmon means that he came out of absolutely nowhere.

Seriously, though, there are only, at most, 3000 freshmen who get FBS (Div-IA) scholarships every year (120 schools times 25 each). Dexter Blackmon already had a scholarship offer from Troy, which meant that he was going to play FBS football.

So why didn't he have a profile on Rivals, Scout, or ESPN?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:44 am to
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you have to love the complete fricking meltdown over 1 commit

well most of it is just jokin b/c this kid really is like the kid from in the air up there, but in alabama, not africa
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60592 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:46 am to
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with the very few spots we have left its just confusing


my position

Especially after two other camps result in no interest, which is completely unlike all the comparisons being Tyrann
Posted by TxTiger25
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
10289 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 9:56 am to
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I said above that one sleeper that comes to mind is Lafell.


LaFell was the 5th best WR in the country on ESPN.
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
2248 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:17 am to
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you can't justify this take with our '11 class, it's a weak DL class but benay pryor is a damn good player who can play inside/outside so I don't see why this guy was offered so early


What makes you say Pryer is a damn good player? There's no more film on Pryer than there is on this guy.
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
2248 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:20 am to
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no i'm talking about hidden gems

hidden gems are usually lower-ranked because they don't get exposure, which often means other big schools aren't recruiting them


SFP, can Pep Levingston qualify as a "hidden gem"? Just curious bc I just thought of him.
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:24 am to
The fact that the big recruiting services didn't spotlight him like they did Matthieu doesn't mean there was "no interest." As was mentioned earlier, players playing in space with the ultimate measurables (rbs, qbs, wrs, cbs) will naturally receive the majority of the press at these camps. A guy like Blackmon (projected dt) would not. This doesn't mean there was no interest from the coaching staffs at these camps.

And just to ask a serious question, does anyone know of a specific situation where LSU turned away a surefire prospect because they didn't have enough room or schollys? And I'm not talking about grade issues. I'm talking about a legit prospect who didn't attend LSU because someone like Blackmon "took" their spot?
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 10:26 am
Posted by seeLSUrun
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
23038 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:25 am to
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What makes you say Pryer is a damn good player? There's no more film on Pryer than there is on this guy.

ok then lets take measurables,

Blackmon: 6'2" 265lbs 4.9

Pryer: 6'5" 285lbs 4.8

both are hybrid line players

and im going by reports on pryer's ability from pay site scouts which they have none of on blackmon.
This post was edited on 7/24/09 at 10:27 am
Posted by Hollywood
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
2139 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:27 am to
I'm withholding judgment on Blackmon until mrgreen weighs in
Posted by ColtsTigers
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2009
2248 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:29 am to
quote:

ok then lets take measurables,

Blackmon: 6'2" 246lbs 4.9

Pryer: 6'5" 285lbs 4.8

both are hybrid line players

and im going by reports on pryer's ability from pay site scouts which they have none of on blackmon.


Big doesn't necessarily mean good, I bet that 40 time for Pryer is bogus. I only know of one actual person who saw Pryer play in HS and has commented on him, and he wasn't impressed (yes, it was Pkit ). Neither Shipp nor Scike (not that I'd listen to Scike, his rankins suck), have ever really commented on Pryer.

Quickness off the ball could be a difference btw the two of them. Who knows. I've just been stating for months though that people were assuming too much that Pryer was any good and would be in the class. Just bc Malveto liked him doesn't mean that Haley would.
Posted by seeLSUrun
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
23038 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:41 am to
i wasnt assuming pryer would be in the class but he ust have showed out at the camp, blackmon i mean, and earned his offer. i do want to see film though, badly.
Posted by TJRibMe
Houston, Mexas
Member since Sep 2004
5224 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:43 am to
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I'm withholding judgment on Blackmon until mrgreen weighs in

this is what the safe money is doing.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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32746 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 10:54 am to
Let's also keep in mind that LSU will be taking at least 1 (and possibly two) kicker/punter in either this year's "almost full" class and next year's "incredibly talented in-state, but low on scholarships" class.
Posted by Cheetah Flex
Big Island, Hawaii
Member since May 2008
10578 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 11:01 am to
why not byran jones instead? hmmmm..



this is definetely a head scratcher...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287964 posts
Posted on 7/24/09 at 11:06 am to
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mathieu's situation is nothing like blackmon, he had blown the UT camp up and was getting pub before he camped at LSU


nothing like it?

it was pretty similar. And Mathieu was getting buzz from where, a recruiting site??? Please. WE have no idea what kind of buzz Blackmon has been getting. Just because it wasnt on a recruiting site doesnt mean he isnt getting buzz.

Mathieu didnt even have a star ranking until he committed to LSU
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