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re: Despite signing, Zachary Evans not expected to end up at Georgia
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:06 pm to LifeAquatic
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:06 pm to LifeAquatic
quote:
Because they never filed his LOI
There's conflicting information about this.
After Burton "corrected" his original tweet I thought it was widely believed that Georgia had, in fact, submitted it.
If they didn't submit it, then yeah, he won't count and he's free to sign with another school.
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:45 pm to whitefoot
quote:
There's conflicting information about this.
After Burton "corrected" his original tweet I thought it was widely believed that Georgia had, in fact, submitted it.
If they didn't submit it, then yeah, he won't count and he's free to sign with another school.
I've reached the point where I believe Kirby paid for it to disappear.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 6:26 am to Indiana Tiger
I've reached the point where I believe Kirby paid for it to disappear.[/quote]
Once it's "submitted" to the NCAA,
it counts,
if it doesn't get submitted it's null/void, because it's not in the required 3days time period for ESD....
For a Kid JACKING AROUND all these colleges
Hey Zach, it's called KARMA BIOTCH....
Enjoy Miss State Community College
or wherever you go,
get your head on straight, and fans will forgive...
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:44 am to KC_LSUFAN
quote:
Once it's "submitted" to the NCAA,
it counts,
if it doesn't get submitted it's null/void, because it's not in the required 3days time period for ESD....
For the record, it is submitted to the SEC. Conferences are responsible for insuring their members follow the rules. If it is not submitted, it is invalid, like it didn't exist, and doesn't have any impact on either the school or athlete. Null/void is different, for example, a full release. It would count as a signee and the athlete could not sign another this year. Assuming the school received the LOI within the signing period, a school has 14 days from the date of the last signature on the LOI to submit it to the conference, and then 5 business days after becoming aware that the LOI is invalid to notify the athlete in writing of the status. Depending on the date of the last signature, we probably haven't quite reach the end of that.
My comment above was a joke because I really don't understand all the cloak and dagger shite around this. Either the LOI was submitted or it wasn't. I know GA couldn't say anything directly because it's a violation to speak publicly about non signed recruits, but they have insiders that leak and the truth could have been let out. It really looks like their trying to cover up a mistake.
Evans will get in a big program. Whether the school that gets him will be okay for doing so is to be determined.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:51 am to transcend
Trans..
I wouldn't doubt a word of your thread but I will add one thing. It would not surprise me a bit if the recruiting infractions self reported by UGA last week are a little more serious than is being told. Personally, I believe it all involves Evans and the threat of some shady dealings with him during his recruitment. The wrong person has some facts and threatened to reveal them unless he was released.
What or who it was we will never know but one thing is for sure UGA seems to be distancing themselves as far as possible from him.
Honestly I think he winds up at ATM or a smaller school. And, I would hope he doesn't come to LSU.
Just my 2 cents...
I wouldn't doubt a word of your thread but I will add one thing. It would not surprise me a bit if the recruiting infractions self reported by UGA last week are a little more serious than is being told. Personally, I believe it all involves Evans and the threat of some shady dealings with him during his recruitment. The wrong person has some facts and threatened to reveal them unless he was released.
What or who it was we will never know but one thing is for sure UGA seems to be distancing themselves as far as possible from him.
Honestly I think he winds up at ATM or a smaller school. And, I would hope he doesn't come to LSU.
Just my 2 cents...
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:52 am to BayouBengals18
quote:
I would doubt it, since GA didn’t accept his NLI.
This doesn't make sense to me. Can schools "not accept" a NLI? That would mean that they could issue as many as they wanted and just accept the best 25?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:00 am to transcend
He was sent home before the 6A state championship game. To me that spells trouble. I would pass.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:31 am to KC_LSUFAN
quote:
For a Kid JACKING AROUND all these colleges
Where did he jack anyone around? Maybe its some of you recruiting freaks who over react to everything these 18 year old kids do or say. You assume its a slight at your chosen school when it may be something totally different. If he does or does not throw up the "L" its freak out time. Did he wear the right color socks? On and on.
These recruits commit on their time table , not yours or mine. Stop the negative and derogatory comments and let the process play out. The coaching staff put together the number one team in the country. They know what they are doing so let them do their thing. If they believe a player would be disruption then they won't recruit him.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:32 am to BayouBengals18
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I would doubt it, since GA didn’t accept his NLI.
If they didn't accept it. Why would they need to release him?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:33 am to moneyg
quote:
This doesn't make sense to me. Can schools "not accept" a NLI? That would mean that they could issue as many as they wanted and just accept the best 25?
Remember the rain of PR shite that LSU got when we destroyed the hopes, dreams, and future of Elliot Porter when we had to offer him a grayshirt? While the circumstances would be quite different and less shocking with your proposal, the PR would be really bad.
For those who don't remember or know of the Porter saga, this was back before the new signing rules prohibiting oversigning non qualifiers were in place. LSU had several academic risks that they signed and overbooked by one, thinking that at least one wouldn't make it. All made it and you can't take more than 25. It was late, like right before fall camp, and they picked Porter as the fall guy and offered him a grayshirt. He was understandably upset about this. Kentucky has a scholarship available and he went with them.
The PR fallout was immense and overwrought. A grayshirt wasn't a bad deal for someone who was going to old school redshirt anyway, but as presented it seemed like we destroyed a kid's future. Within a year Porter got homesick, transferred back to LSU and eventually became an all SEC center.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:49 am to transcend
Does he get to keep the bag of money Georgia gave him?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:54 am to Indiana Tiger
quote:and just as the Porter dust settled with him lettering at LSU, we had the Patrick Miller-Gunner Kiel fiasco.
The PR fallout was immense and overwrought. A grayshirt wasn't a bad deal for someone who was going to old school redshirt anyway, but as presented it seemed like we destroyed a kid's future. Within a year Porter got homesick, transferred back to LSU and eventually became an all SEC center.
I saw them turning Miller away as a direct result of the terrible PR resulting from the oversigning of Porter.
quote:Therein lies the contradiction...
My comment above was a joke because I really don't understand all the cloak and dagger shite around this. Either the LOI was submitted or it wasn't. I know GA couldn't say anything directly because it's a violation to speak publicly about non signed recruits, but they have insiders that leak and the truth could have been let out. It really looks like their trying to cover up a mistake.
IF UGA signed him and submitted it, they could very well speak publicly about him and state that.
IF UGA did not submit it, they couldn't say anything publicly... but why did the insiders, specifically 247, put it out that he did?
If the 247 insiders are correct (or truthful), then the leaking via insiders is unnecessary. It's contradictory.
And I can't help but point out that as Burton was issuing his tweet about Evans being signed and submitted, 247 itself did not list him as being signed to UGA. So why was the former owner and still employee of a website saying something contradictory to the info placed on his own website? By the way, they never even listed him as a hard commit, much less signed. Still don't.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:39 am to transcend
I just want a running back at this point
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:44 am to Got Blaze
Thank you for the nice explanation.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:25 am to I20goon
quote:
IF UGA signed him and submitted it, they could very well speak publicly about him and state that.
IF UGA did not submit it, they couldn't say anything publicly... but why did the insiders, specifically 247, put it out that he did?
I'll be kind to GA here. It's possible that GA doesn't know, or trust, that they actually signed him. We know (at least it was reported) that Evans was in contact with multiple schools even after the LOI was sent in. If an athlete signs multiple LOIs, only the one with the earliest date/time signature will be valid. If they suspect this to be true and they held the LOI for the ACT as you said, then they couldn't know for sure if they had the valid one.
quote:
If the 247 insiders are correct (or truthful), then the leaking via insiders is unnecessary. It's contradictory.
And I can't help but point out that as Burton was issuing his tweet about Evans being signed and submitted, 247 itself did not list him as being signed to UGA. So why was the former owner and still employee of a website saying something contradictory to the info placed on his own website? By the way, they never even listed him as a hard commit, much less signed. Still don't.
Some more kindness. 247 may have had a heads up that something was suspect and waited for a GA confirmation before updating the database regardless of what they think happened.
Regardless, this event is very suspicious and should be looked at. But I think the only body who can is the SEC, and I have zero confidence that Stinkey gives a shite about competitive integrity.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:08 pm to I20goon
quote:
but why did the insiders, specifically 247, put it out that he did?
You have to assume all of the inside information here was coming from Evans' side, and not UGA. Evans was publicly telling people he signed, so 247 put it out there.
quote:
247 itself did not list him as being signed to UGA.
247 doesn't formally list someone as signed until it's confirmed by the school.
quote:
By the way, they never even listed him as a hard commit
He has never actually committed. 247 doesn't list silents as commitments.
As for the lack of official information, and hence the need for inside reports, I think that's easily explained as we find out more. Georgia CAN'T talk about him because he's a recruit and not a signee. And Evans probably doesn't want to talk about the specifics because it makes him look bad.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:35 pm to tigersbb
Hmmmmm
We are talking about the kid whom has had Run-ins with his Coaching Staff all year as well as got kicked off the team for the state championship game...
We are talking about the kid whom has had Run-ins with his Coaching Staff all year as well as got kicked off the team for the state championship game...
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:50 pm to transcend
What a difference 12 months makes. A year ago, any school would have been thrilled to land this guy and now his actions and his handlers may have derailed his college career before it even gets started.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:26 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
quote:
Steve Wiltfong
@SWiltfong247
As expected, was just told @247Sports No. 1 RB Zach Evans has been released from his NLI to Georgia "full release, no restrictions."
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:33 pm to sicboy
Wow. Where to from here?
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 2:35 pm
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