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Culotta says LSU was blindsided by Matthews decommitting

Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:45 am
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:45 am
Doesn’t sound like activities of someone who is just “playing the game” or is “all LSU”

For comparison, according to Culotta, even Shazz Preston and/or his family communicated with LSU prior to visiting Bama this weekend.

Culotta did say people he’s talked to at LSU and around Matthews thinks he signs with LSU. The whole thing stinks to me. Guess we’ll see.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 7:50 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:00 am to
I mean it was pretty well laid out already by some insiders. A&M is using a bagman like Bama did with Petitto here. He got to Matthews and got him to drop his commitment and visit A&M this weekend with whatever amount of $ he dropped to get that. Now they got donors running around telling everyone about this handler and to stay clear of him, they know who he is and what he's doing, etc.

We obviously got ground to make up but it's a long ways away, these things happen in recruiting now and it's part of the game. The good news is they seem to know what happened and arent just clueless.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 8:01 am
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:14 am to
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We obviously got ground to make up but it's a long ways away, these things happen in recruiting now and it's part of the game. The good news is they seem to know what happened and arent just clueless


That’s the biggest positive I think here. The rat is spotted. I’m hoping all they offered to Matthews was money for a decommitment and a visit. Time to lay down the big bucks for this kid. He’s worth it dammnit
Posted by TigersFan2087
Indianapolis, IN
Member since Oct 2014
332 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:24 am to
A&M has been paying recruits they didn’t get since at least the 70’s when they gave Eric Dickerson the gold Trans AM
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1758 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:32 am to
aTm gave him 10k Reasons to decommit, he will spend that and be back with the P&G when all said a done
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:50 am to
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Doesn’t sound like activities of someone who is just “playing the game” or is “all LSU”


... Then 5minutes later Shea says it's not a big deal, said no way he soured on LSU in one week after actively recruiting for LSU and thinks he will be in LSU's class.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:31 am to
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Then 5minutes later Shea says it's not a big deal, said no way he soured on LSU in one week after actively recruiting for LSU and thinks he will be in LSU's class.


I mean not even having the common courtesy to let LSU know raises a red flag to me. He doesn’t have to have a face to face conversation, but at least a phone call, text, DM or something.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1791 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:39 am to
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The rat is spotted.



Can you explain what you even mean by this in this context? Usually "spotting the rat" refers to figuring out which person leaked or is leaking sensitive info. I haven't the slightest idea how that applies here, but maybe i'm missing something.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:43 am to
I'll put it this way...

If a school is offering 5-figures for a visit, just the visit and a pool party, for 5*'s on the condition that you not be committed to another school...


... I'm decommitting too and making my 5 figures.

After that. Who knows. Aggies just might be the next to see the "Respekt My Decizion"
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5562 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I'll put it this way...

If a school is offering 5-figures for a visit, just the visit and a pool party, for 5*'s on the condition that you not be committed to another school...



If they're offering $10k to attend a pool party, then what will they offer to get people to sign?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12906 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:57 am to
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If they're offering $10k to attend a pool party, then what will they offer to get people to sign?
Here's the reality of the recruiting world (with AND without NIL- that just moves money from one side of a line to the other. The entropy of $ is still there): That's the wrong question.

The real question is how much will we pay to bring him back.

It is a common refrain in negotiating that he who speaks first loses. Well, the just opened the bidding and after the intial shock we know what the number has to be as far as minimum.

We just might look at the guys on the field and last years class and say "too rich, not enough value". Just might say $10k is just our down payment.

But regardless, the real question is how bad do we want him. The money will be "found". If they, or Matthews, drive the number too high then fine - he can go try and get his draft stock up there.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:09 am to
Well, if it went down like we think it did, how do you tell LSU that? Probably better that he didn't. How would that convo go? "Hey, this guy is giving me $10k to say I'm decommitted and to attend this thing at A&M this weekend, but we're good and I'm still coming to LSU."
Posted by Tigger98
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:10 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260797 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:11 am to
quote:

If they're offering $10k to attend a pool party, then what will they offer to get people to sign?


NIL will destroy state pride. Everyone will run to the highest bidder.

I know it's always happened, but nothing like this scale. You have to totally revision recruiting and do it nationwide. La recruits will be tempted by money that A&M and Texas can pay.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68340 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I mean not even having the common courtesy to let LSU know raises a red flag to me. He doesn’t have to have a face to face conversation, but at least a phone call, text, DM or something.



"Hey Im calling to say I'm decommitting because a random guy just paid me $10k to go visit A&M this weekend and said I had to be uncommitted"

Seriously, i mean...
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:20 am to
He is looking for a counter offer
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:39 am to
So who the hell is Jordan Arcement
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
7972 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:54 am to
I stopped caring about recruiting before signing day a long time ago, this is why. Dumb drama. Everyone looking for the inside scoop.
Posted by banone74
Member since Oct 2006
1123 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:56 am to
“Ooh, a counta offa”
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:04 am to
quote:

He is looking for a counter offer


nothing new there
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