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Are you confident in our kicking game?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:27 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:27 am
Is it just me or is our kicking game not as "money" as it was in past few years?
Were we spoiled by a string of really good kickers? For some reason I just don't feel as confident in our field goal attempts as I have in the past.
Were we spoiled by a string of really good kickers? For some reason I just don't feel as confident in our field goal attempts as I have in the past.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:36 am to Lutcher Lad
Obviously not, but we got who we got and seems to be improving like the rest of the team.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:37 am to Lutcher Lad
No confidence in anything on ST.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:43 am to Lutcher Lad
Besides the first game I don’t remember us missing field goals. I do think we’ve been spoiled but I’m satisfied with the field goal unit. Kickoff is sub par
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:52 am to Lutcher Lad
Ramos is a decent college kicker. Not great, but accurate enough. He is not Cole Tracy or Cade York, obviously. But at least he's not Connor Culp, Cameron Gamble, or any of the other string of below-average kickers we've had in years past. I'd say he's at least average for a college kicker, and I'm okay with that.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:05 am to Lutcher Lad
Wrong board but the answer is a resounding “yes”—our kicking game is NOT as good as past years. But it’s worth mentioning that we’ve probably had the single best group of kickers in the entire country over the past 10-15 years. Like… we’ve had a top tier college kicker at essentially all points since at least 2010. So we should at least view things in context: We may be worse off this year than in recent history, but the starting point from where we’ve fallen is the absolute tippy top. Save for week 1, our kicking game has probably been pretty average for a P5 program. Obviously we don’t want “average” if we can avoid it, but it’s not THAT bad; it’s just “THAT” bad in relation to our extended string of elite kickers.
Another thing worth noting: From the point in the season where we “figured out” our offense, we’ve been pretty damn good at finishing drives. It feels like we’ve attempted extraordinarily few FGs of 40+ yards. That’s hopefully no fluke, given our awesome success rate and drive sustaining numbers.
And that brings me to my final point: In a somewhat roundabout way, our lackluster kicking game might actually be a blessing in disguise. Let me explain. As a fan of an NFL team with a perennially good kicker, I have watched my team go into ultra-conservative mode SO many times as soon as we hit the “long FG” portion of the field. This conservatism extends to both offensive playcalling (“we’re likely looking at 3pts either way, so let’s start running up the middle to prevent a turnover; maybe we’ll keep driving but at least we’ll ensure points”) and to 4th down decisionmaking. I’m a firm believer that all but the absolute most aggressive 4th down coaches STILL aren’t nearly aggressive enough. Even the guys WITH good kickers should be going for it more often. So I think the fact that our kicking game is wobbly, imo, is actually working somewhat in our favor by pushing BK a little closer towards optimal 4th down decisionmaking. Obviously, at the micro-level, you want a good kicker who can hit that 50 harder when you need it. But at the macro-level, I think it may actually be a net positive. As crazy as that sounds.
Another thing worth noting: From the point in the season where we “figured out” our offense, we’ve been pretty damn good at finishing drives. It feels like we’ve attempted extraordinarily few FGs of 40+ yards. That’s hopefully no fluke, given our awesome success rate and drive sustaining numbers.
And that brings me to my final point: In a somewhat roundabout way, our lackluster kicking game might actually be a blessing in disguise. Let me explain. As a fan of an NFL team with a perennially good kicker, I have watched my team go into ultra-conservative mode SO many times as soon as we hit the “long FG” portion of the field. This conservatism extends to both offensive playcalling (“we’re likely looking at 3pts either way, so let’s start running up the middle to prevent a turnover; maybe we’ll keep driving but at least we’ll ensure points”) and to 4th down decisionmaking. I’m a firm believer that all but the absolute most aggressive 4th down coaches STILL aren’t nearly aggressive enough. Even the guys WITH good kickers should be going for it more often. So I think the fact that our kicking game is wobbly, imo, is actually working somewhat in our favor by pushing BK a little closer towards optimal 4th down decisionmaking. Obviously, at the micro-level, you want a good kicker who can hit that 50 harder when you need it. But at the macro-level, I think it may actually be a net positive. As crazy as that sounds.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:13 am to Lutcher Lad
That is because LSU kicked a lot of FGs with Tracy and York to give you that confidence. Ramos is 6 of 9. Not "great". But he also hasn't had a ton of opportunities. He's also 38/39 on XPs
He had a FG and XP blocked vs. FSU due to terrible coaching. Since that game he is 5/7. He nailed a clutch 47 yard FG vs. Florida to make it a two score game when it looked like LSU was letting a big lead slip away. Last week he had a FG (from a somewhat tough angle) to regain the lead late in the 4th.
Fortunately, he hasn't been asked to make a ton of kicks. But he did drill the two most pressure-fill kicks he's had all season (Florida and Alabama). He hasn't, because he hasn't been asked to, shown you can fully trust him from 50+. But it is not like the actual FG kicking (not the protection) has been a big issue.
He had a FG and XP blocked vs. FSU due to terrible coaching. Since that game he is 5/7. He nailed a clutch 47 yard FG vs. Florida to make it a two score game when it looked like LSU was letting a big lead slip away. Last week he had a FG (from a somewhat tough angle) to regain the lead late in the 4th.
Fortunately, he hasn't been asked to make a ton of kicks. But he did drill the two most pressure-fill kicks he's had all season (Florida and Alabama). He hasn't, because he hasn't been asked to, shown you can fully trust him from 50+. But it is not like the actual FG kicking (not the protection) has been a big issue.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:31 am to Alt26
Any updates on dilbert?
Is he going to be the guy next yr or was he just a miss?
Is he going to be the guy next yr or was he just a miss?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:47 am to Chalkywhite84
I think he's the guy next year. They always raved about his leg (finally seeing it on kickoffs) but thought his accuracy needed work. He was a McMahon eval, so I trust it
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:50 am to Chalkywhite84
Dibert kicked off in 6 games as a true freshman in the SEC, that’s not a miss.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:53 am to ccarrone0313
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his accuracy needed work
That is not what you want to hear about a kicker.
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:32 am to Lutcher Lad
Ramos is fine!
He had a PAT blocked and a FG blocked due to poor OL/ST positioning during those kicks. He is 5-7 other than that and nailed a few pressure kicks against Florida and Bama. He is fine!
He had a PAT blocked and a FG blocked due to poor OL/ST positioning during those kicks. He is 5-7 other than that and nailed a few pressure kicks against Florida and Bama. He is fine!
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