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ZTR Engine - Which to choose?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:13 pm
I’m looking at getting a new zero turn mower this weekend. Looking at a Hustler Raptor XD or a Scag Freedom Z. I had a Honda on my old Hustler and it was great. Now I’m having to choose between a Kawasaki FR651(Hustler) and Kohler 7000 (Scag). What’s the boards opinion on these two engines?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:20 pm to UPGDude
I don't want to speak for the board, but most prefer the Kawasaki.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:22 pm to UPGDude
I had a kohler 35 on my scag it was fine but it was a cold starting somebitch
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:03 pm to cgrand
Kaw FR691 on my Husqvarna lawn tractor. Like a rock

Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:04 pm to UPGDude
Buy the Kawasaki over that Kohler 7000. The Freedom Z is a beast of a mower and if they paired it with a Kawasaki it would be a HOMERUN! The Kohler 7000 leaves a lot to be desired and has had its shared of problems. The Kawasaki FR has been a very reliable engine with very few issues.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:42 pm to UPGDude
Have Kawasaki on my ZTR and had a Kohler on an older lawn tractor/ mower.
Both have been fine
Both have been fine
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:50 pm to UPGDude
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This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:12 am to UPGDude
I've been happy with the Kawasaki FR651 on my Hustler Raptor LTD. I would choose that over the Kohler.
The Kawasaki's have become the gold standard for "pro-sumer" power equipment.
The Kawasaki's have become the gold standard for "pro-sumer" power equipment.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 3:59 am to lnomm34
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You can get the SCAG with a Kawasaki, right?
Scag has recently changed and they don't offer Kawasaki on a 48" Freedom Z. They have a new engine that they label as Scag, Kohler, and a Briggs (Vanguard). It sounds like the Hustler with the Kawasaki will be my choice.
Thanks for the help.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:15 am to lnomm34
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You can get the SCAG with a Kawasaki, right?
Not the Freedom Z.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:39 am to lnomm34
Very pleased with my 42in deck Hustler raptor that has a Kohler engine. Make sure get it at a place that actually services their line of mowers. I get my mower tuned up once a year for about 180 bucks
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:17 pm to UPGDude
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Now I’m having to choose between a Kawasaki FR651(Hustler) and Kohler 7000 (Scag).
I have a Cub Cadet with a Kohler 7000 22 HP. This is just my second season with it so not a lot of maint so far. One selling point to me is that the K7000 seemed to be pretty common along a lot of brands that I looked at and hence parts easily available. So far mine has run well and has a lot of power.
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