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Why can't we build houses to take winter in LA?

Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7204 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:59 pm
This bothers me every year. 90% of the country does not have to run around in a panic every time the temp dips below 30F. What are they doing that we aren't when building houses, and how much more would it really cost to just do it right?

It isn't like these events are rare. It occurs every year, multiple times. It boggles the mind.
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4563 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:04 pm to
Build on slab.
Cover bibs
Profit
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72094 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:57 pm to
You can pretty easily. It just isn't necessary for the handful of times a year that it matters.

Build on a slab, bring the supply into the interior of the house, use up north style hose bibs. Good to go.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:19 pm to
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90% of the country does not have to run around in a panic every time the temp dips below 30F.


That’s because the rest of the country realizes you don’t have to cover faucets every single time the temp goes below freezing for a few hours.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2111 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:44 pm to
What’s there to panic over?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7204 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:54 pm to
I'm on a slab, I toss covers over my hose bibs. I don't panic but if you run over to Home Depot or Lowes right now you will see panic. I'd also say based on the fact that there does seem to be busted pipes around every hard freeze, something more can be done during the building process.

It just seems like whatever building standards that are done a few hundred miles north should probably be adopted here regarding freeze protections. Frost proof hose bibs with the valve deeper into the wall for instance.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2111 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:57 pm to
Those people are crazy. Just like with everything else, including Covid. I’m on piers and I’m sitting in my chair not doing squat to prepare just like all the previous freezes with no problems.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:52 pm to
You telling me I didn’t have to board my windows?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47464 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:42 pm to
This solves most of the issues for a home on a slab in south Louisiana, no panic necessary.



Or this if you are building.

Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29340 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Build on slab.
Freeze proof exterior faucets
Profit


fify
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5327 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:19 am to
I also stuff a rag inside the bib cover
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:21 am to
I don't and have never had an issue with the homes I've owned in south La when it comes to winter
Put covers on the hose bibs and turn the heater on.
What exactly do you have to do to your home?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7204 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:35 am to
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I don't and have never had an issue with the homes I've owned in south La when it comes to winter
Put covers on the hose bibs and turn the heater on.
What exactly do you have to do to your home?


Maybe I should clarify. I don't do anything beyond those steps. I don't panic personally. It does seem to be a problem based on the amount of "WRAP YOUR PIPES!!" fear-driven news as well as the annual flurry of stories the day after a freeze about how busy the plumbers are fixing busted pipes.

Perhaps it is all a media creation. I just don't see those stories happening in areas where freezes are common leading me to believe there must be some build differences up north that could be implemented here.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
16020 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:03 am to
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Build on slab.


Check

quote:

Cover bibs




All set.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7204 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:08 am to
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All set.


If I don't cover my bibs, does it make your bib cover not work? That is my understanding.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
16020 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:10 am to
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If I don't cover my bibs, does it make your bib cover not work? That is my understanding.


That’s exactly how it works. I’m calling on JBE to issue a mandate right now.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9052 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:39 am to
I think up north they also bring the water supply in below the freeze line and don't put lines on exterior walls or attics when possible.
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1526 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:41 am to
My water comes into the basement then travels out the rim joist to the exterior faucets. Right before it goes through rim joist there is a shut off valve. When temps start getting below zero, I just shut off the valves in basement and open outside valves. Don't need my hoses too much in the winter..

Oh and plumbing never runs in an exterior wall.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 10:41 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87391 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:35 am to
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does not have to run around in a panic every time the temp dips below 30F.
I've never done this.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7204 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:42 am to
quote:

My water comes into the basement then travels out the rim joist to the exterior faucets. Right before it goes through rim joist there is a shut off valve. When temps start getting below zero, I just shut off the valves in basement and open outside valves. Don't need my hoses too much in the winter..

Oh and plumbing never runs in an exterior wall.


Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about. I like the idea of having a separate cut-off for exterior faucets. It wouldn't be too difficult to map that system out if building new. Avoiding plumbing on exterior walls might be a bit more limiting on bathroom and kitchen layouts but it's a pretty logical solution as well.

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