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What sand do I buy to level yard and where do I get it? (BR)

Posted on 7/22/23 at 5:12 am
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36179 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 5:12 am
Not getting too crazy like a dumptruck load, but I have a lot of holes and dips I’d like to level out. And what time of year do I put it down?
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 5:55 am to
I got masonry sand by the ton and used a local dirt/sand/gravel company that delivered it. A ton and a yard is pretty close to being the same amount. I paid $30 a ton plus a delivery charge. I am putting it down now while the grass is growing full blast and watering it in.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 5:58 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 7:08 am to
I just did this last week. I bought bags of play sand and topsoil. One bag each created a nice 60/40 mix of sand and soil.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38780 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 9:29 am to
mason sand or play sand
any bulk material supplier will have it

if you just need a little you can get bags at home depot
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:07 am to
As everyone said, mason sand and most of the retail garden centers like Louisiana Nursery, Cleggs, Plant Tech etc sell it. LN you can buy it in bulk in 1/3 yard quantities and Cleggs 1/2 yard amounts. Plant Tech 1 yard and up. One yard weighs 2400 lbs, so if you have a pick up, don’t overload it. Avoid river silt b/c of weed seeds and potential for torpedograss introduction.

LSU AgCenter recommends not to apply over 2 inches in depth at a time so the grass can grow through it. When that occurs you can re-apply another 2 inches and so on.
Posted by GoldBlooded
Member since Feb 2017
78 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:13 am to
I've been curious about this also. More so about the actual process of spreading it though because I've never done it.

What is the best way? Some type of broadcast or drop spreader? Good old fashion wheelbarrow and shovel?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:16 am to
I dumped it from my wheelbarrow and spread it with an upside-down lawn rake.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58745 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:45 am to
A friend had a tree taken down and stump grounded years ago. Left some holes along where the tree roots were. I have a dump trailer, my cousin owns a dirt pit, he has river silt. I got a load, dropped it off, the rest in the trailer, I dropped at another friends place. The first yard had a good stand of St Augustine grass. The grass coverage did very well after the silt was added. Silt is around 60% sand. I get him to sweep over the silt with his bucket, then drop it from a high point above the trailer, only end up with a few chunks of clay.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
826 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 11:02 am to
quote:

More so about the actual process of spreading it though because I've never done it. What is the best way? Some type of broadcast or drop spreader? Good old fashion wheelbarrow and shovel?
For small areas, all you really need is a push broom and work it in.

If you have a large area to level, then I’d recommend getting one of these:
Lawn Leveling Rake

If you have a really big yard then you might want to get something to pull behind a 4 wheeler or lawn mower. They do make machines specific for top dressing / lawn leveling projects, but I’m not sure where you’d even rent something like that.

Just be mindful that this is a pretty labor intensive job so take your time and hydrate. Also it helps if the sand is dry. I usually put down a tarp in the driveway to dump the sand onto. Then spread the sand over the whole surface area of the tarp so the sun dries it out as I go.
Posted by GoldBlooded
Member since Feb 2017
78 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:22 pm to
Thanks, this is great info. I have about 4800 sq ft that I would like to do, so I'll probably need something to pull behind my lawn mower. It isn't terrible, just not as smooth as I would like.

Yeah I'm anticipating it to be a very labor intensive job which is another reason I haven't taken it on yet lol.
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
740 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:36 pm to
I did this a few years back. Got a scoop(forget the yard/tonnage) of mason sand from a local bulk supplier in the back of my pickup and was able to spread it in an afternoon. What saved my a** was borrowing one of those four wheel dump carts (gorilla cart*). They are so much easier than a wheel barrow.
Used an upside down rake and a long/narrow shop broom to level.

Mistake I made was putting the sand too thick in areas which killed the centipede grass below. St. Aug may be able to take a thicker top dress and recover better. After 6 mths of big white spots in our front yard, I had to add sod in areas to please the Ms. I think 2in is a bit aggressive. I recommend err on the side of caution and apply multiple thin layers of sand overtime.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:46 pm to
Mason sand, wheelbarrow, shovel, lawn leveling rake, and a push broom.
Posted by GoldBlooded
Member since Feb 2017
78 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 2:50 pm to
Thanks I will have to look into the gorilla cart. That does sound much easier than a wheelbarrow.

That's good to know because I have centipede also. I'll be sure to not go too thick.
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
262 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 4:28 pm to
not to hijack thread, but I want to core aerate my Centipede front yard...I plan to leave the plugs but would like to top dress also...was thinking a 50/50 mason sand and Black Kow mixture...maybe with a little milorganite thrown in...thoughts?

also, I did not fertilize this lawn in spring because I was planning to aerate and wanted to fertilize when I did, just didn't think it would take me this long to get to it...should/could I also put down some Centipede fert?
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3183 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

gorilla cart


This is a huge back saver! I have been working on my bermuda since January. I feel like a greenskeeper
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40239 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:50 pm to
Get the kind that doesn’t have Torpedo seeds in it
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
826 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 9:10 am to
1000% yes to the gorilla cart - 4 cu ft one with 4 wheels.

For your aerate question, I do leave my plugs. You can rake the plugs from high spots and transport to the low areas of your lawn to help level some.

You can use the 50/50 sand/black kow mix to level. Just know that the manure will break down and you’ll have a low spot again next year. I do 100% sand (I have Bermuda) and I still have to level low spots annually anyway.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11700 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:09 pm to
Don’t leave the plugs
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11700 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:14 pm to
Play sand at Home Depot has pebbles. I just screened 5 bags a week ago I’m getting 3 yds for 175 from a guy on market place 1st week of august need to drag and rake and broom it in and I’m only doing one side of my yd
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
262 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 4:07 pm to
just curious: what is your reasoning for not leaving the plugs?

Everything I read as well as some golf course superintendent I know recommends leaving them
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