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What are my options with this kitchen lighting?

Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:41 pm
Man I really hate the look of this and the light it puts off. What do y’all think would be an easy way to redo this setup? Maybe box it up and add some hanging pendant lighting? Idk but it’s got to go.

Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:19 pm to
Trash that and get you some can lights
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:23 pm to
Yep, cans or wafers
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22390 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:31 pm to
Had something similar on my kitchen preflood. Since we were redoing most of the house we pulled it down and did 4 cans with a fixture in the middle
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36832 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:39 pm to
Just pulled something similar from late 80's
Installed 5 recessed lights
Looks great
You'll need to do some drywall patching and ceiling painting
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:51 pm to
Lookadem cocks fighting
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:53 pm to
You can put some LED bulbs in it
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:01 pm to
Led
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39509 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:21 pm to
I’m pretty handy but have never installed any sort of can light. Is this an easy task? Let’s say 4 of them. This has got to go ASAP. It’s pissing me off talking about it.
Posted by Chuckd
Louisiana
Member since May 2013
797 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:27 pm to
Lowe’s sells some led can lights that are made for remodels. They’re not the old large cans that are about a foot deep. It requires a $10 drywall saw and some very basic wiring knowledge. Super simple project.

Eta: these Lowe’s
I don’t know anything about this brand but these are the style I’m talking about. Cut a hole and the orange clips hook behind the dry wall. You don’t even have to mount them to a joist.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20903 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:31 pm to
You can get led surface mount lights that look like recess lights. Very easy to install.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:23 pm to
When you take that light fixture down, regardless of what light(s) you choose as a replacement, you will be painting that ceiling
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 6:30 am to
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You can get led surface mount lights that look like recess lights. Very easy to install.


This and make sure they are dimmable and change your light switch to a dimmable switch.

Were your old light is, install a electrical jumper box and then run new wiring to the LED lights.

These are LED lights. Top side in attic. Do notice that the light has a closed in electrical box to tie in. A must!





This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 6:37 am
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20903 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:32 am to
I was actually thinking you could use the existing switch leg and pull it back to the first light and then jump out the rest.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12613 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:40 am to
quote:

I was actually thinking you could use the existing switch leg and pull it back to the first light and then jump out the rest.


You can. I recently did this using 'remodel' recessed cans with LED inserts. The remodel cans have clips just like you guys were talking about, so you're not nailing the cans to the ceiling joists like you would in new construction. Everything can be done from below. Just make sure you know where the ceiling joists are so you don't hit them when you cut the holes. Planning is key.

I removed an atrocious looking light just like the OP has, patched the drywall, textured the patches to match rest of ceiling, repainted the entire ceiling, and installed recessed lighting throughout the kitchen.

Really not a hard job at all. You don't even have to get in the attic. Just fish the wire from hole to hole.

One of these bad boys really makes life easy. You can get them at Home Depot for around $30 ( LINK):




ETA: If you do decide to do this job, a couple of words of advice:

1. Make DOUBLE sure your hole is not too big when you cut it. I screwed up one hole and had to cut a bigger area out, patch the drywall, texture, etc., then recut the hole. Luckily I was already doing other drywall patch work, but that mistake slowed me down for sure.

2. Cut the hole tight tolerance to fit the can. If you have to shave the hole a little bit, the backside of a drywall saw makes a good 'scraper' that can be used to widen the hole just a hair.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20903 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:06 am to
The led surface lights that I am talking about only requires a 3” box that can be a cut in box if necessary. But the are really just surface mount lights that have a recessed look to them
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12613 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:14 am to
quote:

The led surface lights that I am talking about only requires a 3” box that can be a cut in box if necessary. But the are really just surface mount lights that have a recessed look to them



Yea, my dad bought a bunch of those for a rent house he's working on.

Like this?



I went with the can and the LED retrofit kit inside of a regular remodel can:






Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20903 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:17 am to


Like this. ETA this is about a 7 inch diameter light
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I was actually thinking you could use the existing switch leg and pull it back to the first light and then jump out the rest.


Yes, you can. BUT, code calls for a box so you don't have any exposed wire nuts. It's just a simple box with a cover.

Those lights I got, came from Homedepot. Can't find a link for them now. They were around $18 each. They are easy to install, just about plug and play. No ceiling box and rated for direct contact with insulation.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 10:00 am
Posted by shokolad
Member since Jun 2019
1 post
Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:54 am to
the kitchen should be well lit. Zonite kitchen lighting. This is a cooking area, dining area and seating area.
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