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re: Virginia Button Weed
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:52 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:52 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
I have a small area of probably about 50 sqr ft that gets infested with buttonweed in the summer and a bunch of other weeds in the winter.
This year I think I'm going to pull as much of it up by hand as possible right around the time we're supposed to put down a pre emergent for the winter. Gonna go heavy on the pre-em in that area, keep as many weeds out over the winter as possible, then go heavy with the spring pre-em and see if that will eradicate the problem.
This year I think I'm going to pull as much of it up by hand as possible right around the time we're supposed to put down a pre emergent for the winter. Gonna go heavy on the pre-em in that area, keep as many weeds out over the winter as possible, then go heavy with the spring pre-em and see if that will eradicate the problem.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 10:46 am to reauxl tigers
Pre-em doesn't work on buttonweed. I know, it sucks!!
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:06 am to Peejack84
Im thinking pre-emergent might work on buttonweed but it grows in late summer. I think most people spray in spring and sometimes fall. Might have to spray again in late june or july. Im just guessing about this but it could work.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:18 am to Peejack84
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Pre-em doesn't work on buttonweed. I know, it sucks!!
Odd you say that, this is the first year since the flood I did not put down barricade, and the first time I have had VBW, almost entire yard covered.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:13 pm to highpockets
It my understanding that VBW can reproduce and expand by 4 different methods - above ground seeds, underground seeds, underground rhizomes, and above ground stolons. Pre-emergent herbicide would only potentially affect affect the seed method of reproduction. This is one reason it is so difficult to control.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 2:33 pm to highpockets
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Odd you say that, this is the first year since the flood I did not put down barricade, and the first time I have had VBW, almost entire yard covered.
I didn't get it until last year. At the time I really didn't know what it was and it was towards the end of summer so I didn't spray it since it goes dormant in the winter. This year I started spraying as soon as I saw it. I've sprayed 4 times this year and it just keeps coming back in different spots.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:21 pm to reauxl tigers
Pre em will not prevent buttonweed. I have said numerous times on this board. Treat it with Celsius
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:22 pm to highpockets
Barricade did not do anything to prevent your buttonweed.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:57 am to CrawDude
For those new to battling VBW, article I received this AM from local plant nursery’s newsletter
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Virginia Buttonweed Working at Louisiana Nursery for over a year I have noticed one question that is asked almost weekly by customers, “What is this in my lawn and how do I go about treating it” and 80% of the time customers are battling Virginia Buttonweed. Virginia Buttonweed (Diodia Virginiana) is one of the hardest, most invasive weeds to control in turf and flowerbeds. This resilient weed is extremely prolific and has multiple ways to reproduce and spread. From heavy seed production, the ability to root from a stem fragment, and long tap roots make this nuisance a battle to deal with. Without proper timing your efforts could just be a waste of time. Cultural practices such as hand pulling or cutting it flush will only make this beast worse. Its long tap root gives the mother plant not only the ability to survive winter conditions but if you try to pull it and you leave any fragments of root in the ground it will eventually turn into a viable plant again. Not to mention the heavy fertile seed production, one plant can turn into hundreds within a growing season. Treatments on Buttonweed need to start as soon as plants start breaking dormancy. April to Late May is a great window for treatment of button weed both returning plants and seedlings have broken dormancy and have started pushing out tender new growth which makes them extremely susceptible to herbicide uptake. Treating in early spring with Fertilome’s Weed Free Zone or turf MSM will easily knock out the population significantly but be careful with Weed Free Zone once temperatures rise above 85* 2,4-D (the active ingredient) will cause significant damage to Centipede and St. Augustine. For control during the warmer months Turf MSM has been tried by LSU and has been proven safe in higher temperatures. The worst move to make with buttonweed is to wait until late summer (August-October) to start treatments. By this point in the season the plants have already hardened off and are no longer putting out as much new growth making them extremely resistant to most herbicides. The only thing you can do at this point before winter is start putting a pre-emergent herbicide down to rob any seedlings the chance of germinating in the spring. Applying a pre-emergent down now will also help aid in the suppression of any cool season weeds like clover and chickweed. Written by Austin Heltzel, Store Employee
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:26 am to CrawDude
Would it be easier to just spray round up and re sod the area?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:08 am to CrawDude
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For those new to battling VBW, article I received this AM from local plant nursery’s newsletter
Dang man that's a depressing read! Good info though for people trying to pull it out thinking they are doing any good.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:21 am to Art Vandelay
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Would it be easier to just spray round up and re sod the area?
If you have large areas of solid VBW, with no or little lawn grass that is always an option, to nuke it with glyphosate or another non-selective herbicide and re-sod. That’s pretty much true of any weed that’s crowded out 100% of lawn grass in an area. Understand that doesn’t guarantee it won’t come back in that same area from seeds, underground rhizomes that wasn’t killed by the herbicide, but it gives one a fighting chance.
In my mind, the most salient point of the article I posted is to spray VBW early, when it first emerges in the spring when it’s more susceptible to the selective herbicides recommenced for VBW, and that’s my personal observation and experience. When I miss areas of VBW in the spring, and later find it, usually when it goes to flower, I find more difficult to kill even with the good herbicides recommended in this thread.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:24 am to CrawDude
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The worst move to make with buttonweed is to wait until late summer (August-October) to start treatments
That's not the info I was wanting to hear
Thanks for posting ... that was informative. Looks like I might have to do what I can now, and hit it hard early next springs.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:44 am to CrawDude
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When I miss areas of VBW in the spring, and later find it, usually when it goes to flower, I find more difficult to kill even with the good herbicides recommended in this thread.
I guess I have a harder time seeing it when it is tiny and miss a bunch. Those damn white flowers are like targets though impossible to miss lol.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:25 am to MikeD
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I guess I have a harder time seeing it when it is tiny and miss a bunch. Those damn white flowers are like targets though impossible to miss lol.
Same here
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:41 am to CrawDude
Can anyone recommend a pre-emergent to use?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:38 pm to Delacroix
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Can anyone recommend a pre-emergent to use?
I use Dimension (dithiopyr), many others on the board use Barricade (prodiamine) - both are good and readily available at hardware stores, retail plant nurseries, etc.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:40 pm to jimbeam
How's everyone doing? I pushed my lawn after sunset last night so I could avoid seeing the Virginia Button Weed.
Can I spray some no weed zone this afternoon?
It's cool enough right??
Can I spray some no weed zone this afternoon?
It's cool enough right??
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:38 pm to bayoubengals88
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Can I spray some no weed zone this afternoon? It's cool enough right??
Wait until Saturday. The highs should come down significantly.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:43 pm to bayoubengals88
I’d wait until this weekend. Do it before the game because Sunday is gonna be a physical suckfest
I’m spraying prodiamine Sunday FYI
I’m spraying prodiamine Sunday FYI
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