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Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:44 pm to
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Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:47 am to
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hope all this rain doesn’t mess with my tomatoes.


The good news is it hasn’t been too hot. So that should help.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:18 am to
Yes I do. Makes a huge difference in how soundly I sleep at night.

I thought about putting a bird feeder on the other side of the yard as a deterrent, but always thought that it would only invite more birds into my yard that would then see the nice buffet.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 8:19 am
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:19 am to
Yeah. I need to find an additional option for fertilizing. Right now I use a hose attachment but don't really want to do that right after a big rain.

What do you use?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:31 am to
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What do you use?


Probably the most inefficient thing possible.

2 gallon watering can and a water soluble fertilizer (Sea Grow Flower and Bloom as discussed a few pages back). The numerous amount of return trips to the water faucet is good exercise.

It's really not that much of an inconvenience now since I enjoy working in the garden and spending time in the backyard on weekends. But if I expand any more like I plan to, then it'll become an inconvenience. I've been thinking of getting a drum of some sort in order to mix a big batch all at once, and then maybe add a pump to get it out to the garden via irrigation.

So far I've picked about a dozen Roma tomatoes. No beefmasters yet. And the strawberries and blackberries are still coming in steady. I haven't gotten any pictures lately because we have been devouring them pretty quickly. Right off of the plant sometimes.

ETA: I should probably just find a slow release granule to side dress with every now and then instead of water solubles. My dad uses some stuff called Rainbow in 5-20-20 and it does well. I've spoken to the guys at my local garden center and they said they'd look into it. But they do sell an 8-24-24. That's apparently what the LSU AgCenter recommends. I may try that stuff.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 8:35 am
Posted by auburn32
Auburn
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:38 am to
I saw someone with apples a couple of pages back. I thought apples didn't do well in the deep South due to a lack of chill hours? What varieties do well down here?
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:08 am to
Yeah I don't like the hose sprayer because I never know exactly how much fertilizer is going out and it gets diluted the longer you water.

I may try looking for those granules too. At the very least as a backup.

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I haven't gotten any pictures lately because we have been devouring them pretty quickly. Right off of the plant sometimes.


I know what you mean. I caught my 3 year old literally on all fours with head in the blackberry bush the other day

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I saw someone with apples a couple of pages back. I thought apples didn't do well in the deep South due to a lack of chill hours? What varieties do well down here?


There are some with low chill hour requirements that can produce down here. Anna and Dorsett apples are the 2 popular ones since they have lower requirements under 300 hours.

I gambled a little bit and went with Winter Banana (400 hours) and Cinnamon Spice (350) apples. If they don't produce regularly I'll go ahead and add at least 1 Anna or Dorsett. I'll give them a couple of years though.

So far the winter banana has flowered both springs. The cinnamon spice didn't flower last year but did this year. I think it was due to it being a bit smaller than the winter banana.

In my other post about them I was frustrated because they didn't flower at the same time (which they are supposed to) but since then they started sending off new blooms and both have quite a few blooms on them. I don't know how I have that one apple on the winter banana though. Maybe someone near me also has an apple tree
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:22 am to
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I thought about putting a bird feeder on the other side of the yard as a deterrent, but always thought that it would only invite more birds into my yard that would then see the nice buffet.


I tried that with the squirrels. And this is why I stopped feeding and started trapping them.

I had caught about a dozen squirrels and then hadn't seen any for weeks. Then a few moved in and found my sunflowers. I've caught 3 this week. And I'll probably just leave the trap out until I stop catching them.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1857 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:17 pm to
Ok guys

I am a Contender/Blue Lake bush bean guy. This year I planted Kentucky Wonder to give pole beans a try. So far, I am not too impressed. Very flat and have strings(which is added work). Am I letting them grow to long?

Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:41 pm to
Tomato tone works pretty well and I can’t say with certainty that I notice a difference between that and the water soluble stuff in the main garden. I definitely notice a difference in the grow bags though. I’ve found it to be pretty important to keep the soluble fertilizer up there.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:05 am to
The strike beans as recommended here are producing great for us. Those plants are loaded with beans.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:18 am to
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I am a Contender/Blue Lake bush bean guy. This year I planted Kentucky Wonder to give pole beans a try. So far, I am not too impressed. Very flat and have strings(which is added work). Am I letting them grow to long?


If you like Blue Lake, they make a stringless pole variety. I've grown them a lot and would definitely recommend.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 am to
These little leaf cucumbers are finally taking off but aren't making shite yet. Here are some photos of some tomatoes turning. The striped at Fred's and large barred boar. The solid is new big dwarf. I also noticed this morning that I have some bell peppers, carmens, and corno di toro giallos turning colors.







Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 am to
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little leaf cucumbers


Looking forward to hearing about how these do. Reading about them they seem like a solid type.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:45 am to
Nice

I think I'm going to try some Fred's and LBB next year. Those are both heirlooms, correct? I want to start seed saving, so I'm going to try to go to all heirlooms.
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
1450 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:16 pm to
Darth, do you know what variety of blueberry that is? That looks like it could feed a family of 20 all summer!
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:20 pm to
Yep. Actually just picked a LBB that I missed. First ripe full sized tomato this year. I’m a big fan of both and both have had pretty solid disease resistance for me. The dwarf plants are just so much easier to deal with than the full sized indeterminate plants. LBB is a bit shorter and stockier than other full sized indeterminates though. I have those two growing next to two pink Berkeley tie dye plants and the PBTD plants are like 2’ taller.



ETA: 65 days from plant out.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4473 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:31 pm to
Impressive that you have ripe tomatoes in 65 days. I have all the varieties you mentioned, probably planted a little later, and am way behind you - on limited sun.

You got any secrets?
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:37 pm to
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Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:08 pm to
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way behind you


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on limited sun.


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You got any secrets?


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sun
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