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Mer Rouge
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Pull those wood chips away from the beans and fertilize them. The wood steals the nitrogen.


WigSplitta22
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Pull those wood chips away from the beans and fertilize them. The wood steals the nitrogen.




I don't think that's the case as a mulch. Only when mixed into the soil


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PillageUrVillage
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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Pull those wood chips away from the beans and fertilize them. The wood steals the nitrogen.


I agree with pulling the wood chips away a little, but for disease prevention reasons. Beans are nitrogen fixing plants and a very light feeders. Usually what is in the soil is enough. Also, if wood chips are used as a topdressing and not worked into the soil they will not tie up nitrogen down in the root zone. This is a common myth that I see parroted all the time. Wood chips on the surface will use nitrogen from the air to break down.


Mer Rouge
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
"I agree with pulling the wood chips away a little, but for disease prevention reasons. Beans are nitrogen fixing plants and a very light feeders. Usually what is in the soil is enough. Also, if wood chips are used as a topdressing and not worked into the soil they will not tie up nitrogen down in the root zone. This is a common myth that I see parroted all the time. Wood chips on the surface will use nitrogen from the air to break down."

This is good to know. Just from personal experience I had some growing in fresh mulch that looked like the ones in the picture. I finally decided to rake the mulch away and gave them a shot of fertilizer and they turned out fine. Not sure what it is but they don't like mulch.


jyoung1
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Maybe they just needed fertilizer?


Mr Sausage
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Picked our first 2 yellow squash from the garden. Need some rain to really perk things up and get them going.


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jyoung1
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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Louisiana Pink, Louisiana Red, and Gulf State Market tomatoes


Didn't know Louisiana had it's own heirloom's! I'm definitely growing some of these next season.


michael corleone
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
My go to bean mix—-13/13/13 and epsom salt at planting. Bone meal and epsom when they get about a foot tall. That’s it. Works for me every year. First planting yields two crops. In a 100 sq ft box I average 35-40 lbs of beans. Second crop is planted in late May. Less yield, closer to 20-25 lbs. Fall crop goes in around 8/1 and yields 35-40 lbs, but is freeze dependent. 2019 was amazing bc we didn’t have the first frost until late Nov/early Dec.


mudcat tiger
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
I’m growing a couple Louisiana All Season tomatoes. Supposed to be bread for hot humid. Plants are very strong looking so far.


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TheBoo
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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Louisiana Pink,

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Didn't know Louisiana had it's own heirloom's!

At the local feed store they had some Louisiana Reds, and when a gentleman looking next to me, had to be in his 80's, saw them he couldn't believe it. We had a good conversation about how that's all they used to grow when he was a kid. Louisiana Pinks and Red's. He couldn't wait to tell his brothers and sisters that he saw some.

I'm thinking next season those will be in my garden.


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TheBoo
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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epsom salt

speaking of this, is there such a thing as putting too much?


PillageUrVillage
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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epsom salt

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is there such a thing as putting too much?


www.ag.ndsu.edu/yardandgardenreport/2016-06-08/the-epsom-salt-myth

ETA: The key takeaway for me is that magnesium and calcium compete for uptake into the plant. Too much of any one thing can be bad.
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TheBoo
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Thanks Pillage. So hypothetically if I were to lean the epsom salt bag against my tomato bed and the wind blew it over and spilled. And I hypothetically wasn't able to get a good bit of it out... am I screwed with the plants in that immediate vicinity?


PillageUrVillage
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Maybe not. It’s a micronutrient, so it may not have too much of a negative effect, if any at all.

Unless your soil is depleted of magnesium, adding epsom salt probably won’t do too much for your plants. I think it’s more of a feel good thing for most people. My soil test showed high levels of magnesium. I don’t use it. In fact my soil test showed high levels of pretty much all nutrients. That’s why the only thing I’ve been using is fish emulsion for the low dose nitrogen.


mudcat tiger
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Has anyone ever used Langbenite for tomatoes? It is a natural mineral that contains potassium, magnesium and sulfur which are all important nutrients g do or tomato growth. I just ordered some and want to try it on my tomatoes.
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PillageUrVillage
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Langbenite


Funny you should mention that. I was on Amazon earlier looking for a low N, higher P and K fertilizer to try since my tomatoes and peppers are going into heavy fruit production. That was one of the things that popped up. Let us know how it works.

I did end up buying this stuff just to try.

As I said in my last post, all I’ve been using so far is fish emulsion. But since my tomatoes are pretty loaded at the moment, I figured it may be time to start supplementing more. I’ll give an update after using this stuff for a while.


jyoung1
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Mouth is watering for the first bite of a fresh tomato.









In other news, I’m done with celebrity, ive never had a plant this large with not a single fruit on it, first 3 clusters never fruited.




Potatoes are starting to flower, so there should be some action going on below the soil soon.



I really messed up the soil in my containers this year, after trying to correct soil that was too acidic, i added too much lime and now too alkaline, they’ve looking really rough ever since planted (I don’t recommend ever using hydrated lime and also it’s very easy to over lime with pelletized lime).



Cucumbers are starting to kick into gear after the cold months we had. 3rd attempt at sowing seeds in the back half of beds finally successful.














gumbo2176
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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do you grow from seed/seedlings or bulb? I


Bulbs bought from the local Feed & Seed store. I usually buy 100 each of the yellow and red small bulbs and set them out spaced from the start how they should grow to maturity.


LSUlefty
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
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I’m done with celebrity


I find that's the easiest variety to grow


AutoYes_Clown
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re: The 2021 Garden Thread
Well Im officially on the board. May 1st is latest Ive ever started.

Took 4 hours to prep bed and plant 5 tomato plants, 2 cucumber and bean seeds . But my 4 and 5 yo's did 90% of the work. It's their garden now and they are so proud if it and I couldnt be more proud of them.


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