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re: Sunken Den in my house with water table seepage.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:02 pm to Beauxcefus
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:02 pm to Beauxcefus
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Hope I didn't miss anything.
Holy shite~! DUDE, you get MY vote for response of the year!!!!
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:05 pm to NPComb
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I see black mold in your near future.

Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:29 pm to wally
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ended up filling it in.
It’s not 1970, so what’s filling her in going to hurt?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:46 am to Yeahright
Fill the den with more water than what’s outside so that the outside water doesn’t come in.
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:51 am to Yeahright
quote:chances are that’s almost exactly what your problem is. You need gutters and some downspouts to direct the water away from the house at the least.
Thanks MikeD since you are the only serious response so far. I agree that would help but I'm not sure it would fix the problem totally. Thanks.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:08 am to Beauxcefus
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Hope I didn't miss anything.
Well you missed that whole “sawing concrete through the load bearing exterior grade beams” issue.
Let’s transfer the subsurface water issue to an above ground structural issue and roof leak.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:09 am to Yeahright
Two options here. Outside grading is the easiest. If that doesn't work, then you will need to expose your exterior walls (excavator removing adjacent soil), then waterproof the walls, install a HDPE drainage pipe, then backfill with stone. If coming up through the floor, you will also need a sump.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:21 am to Yeahright
Funny thing. I read your post last night and thought, "Damn, sounds like the room I'm sitting in."
Discovered 2" of water at 5:54 this morning
Discovered 2" of water at 5:54 this morning
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:16 pm to Yeahright
get the water away from your house as far as possible.
take the tiles up clean the slab and roll on 2 coats of loba wakol PU 280 that will keep water up to 18 psi out, retile and done.
take the tiles up clean the slab and roll on 2 coats of loba wakol PU 280 that will keep water up to 18 psi out, retile and done.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:41 pm to Yeahright
I'd focus on identifying where the water is infiltrating from, because it isn't coming through the floor, unless it's at the baseboard somewhere.
Have you used a moisture meter on your walls yet? That could tell you if it's coming from below or above. It's a long shot, but I'd also check the attic above the room just to be sure.
Is there a grade outside that room anywhere? If ground flow is at a poor grade, once it overcomes perc it will come to the house. Diagram where the nearest downspout is vs. the room location as well.
Have you used a moisture meter on your walls yet? That could tell you if it's coming from below or above. It's a long shot, but I'd also check the attic above the room just to be sure.
Is there a grade outside that room anywhere? If ground flow is at a poor grade, once it overcomes perc it will come to the house. Diagram where the nearest downspout is vs. the room location as well.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:41 pm to learnthehardway
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More of a question than a solution here... what if you poured it out level and gave up the sunken living room thing entirely? Maybe someone with some prior experience professional or otherwise can answer.
if the OP is over 6" tall then he may hit head on the ceiling if raising 8 inches. Definitely would get nicked by a fan blade.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:56 pm to learnthehardway
quote:About three months after we bought our house, there was extreme flooding in our area, and water seeped into the sunken living room. Just at the edge, no major damage. We called a landscaper, wanting to have a drainage system installed, or whatever he would recommend as a solution to prevent future issues. He recommended filling in the sunken living room. He refused to do any drainage unless that was done. We had concrete poured and then didn’t need him for drainage. This was over twenty years ago.
More of a question than a solution here... what if you poured it out level and gave up the sunken living room thing entirely? Maybe someone with some prior experience professional or otherwise can answer.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:00 pm to Yeahright
It might cost you just for the visit, but find a pro that can tell you what to do. If this has happened 7 times in 5 years, it needs to be addressed ASAP. Or move.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:12 pm to sosaysmorvant
Similar issue in a storage room off of our basement garage. It doesn't pool water, but gets damp or wet with big rains. It could drizzle all day and not a drop inside. But if we got more than a couple inches in an afternoon, it would leak. About 8-9 years ago I bought some masonry crack filler product, in a tube like caulk, and filled in all the cracks and painted a few coats of a waterlock product on it. That seemed to help the issue for several years.
I know what ultimately needs to be done, and this is dig away from the foundation on the whole left side of the front of the house, and have tar put on. About 2 years ago I had a buddy of mine that started his own landscaping business come out and install a french drain, added dirt and sloped away from the foundation down to where the drain was installed, and did some maintenance on my gutters. Now it takes something monumental for there to be any sort of leak. A few weeks back we got over 6 inches of rain in an afternoon, and there was a little line of water seeping in. Just something about older houses with basements and eventually water is going to find its way in.
I know what ultimately needs to be done, and this is dig away from the foundation on the whole left side of the front of the house, and have tar put on. About 2 years ago I had a buddy of mine that started his own landscaping business come out and install a french drain, added dirt and sloped away from the foundation down to where the drain was installed, and did some maintenance on my gutters. Now it takes something monumental for there to be any sort of leak. A few weeks back we got over 6 inches of rain in an afternoon, and there was a little line of water seeping in. Just something about older houses with basements and eventually water is going to find its way in.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 6:52 am to Yeahright
You may not like the answer but apply Earth Shield waterstop at the lower floor level, then place about 2 inches of new concrete.
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Posted on 5/21/21 at 10:03 am to Martini
Build a wood floor that fits into the sunken living room. Install some floats beneath and wait for the next flood to try out your new living room raft.
Really though, fill it in with a base layer of sand to drain any reoccurring water seepage and cap it with concrete to match the rest of the house.
Really though, fill it in with a base layer of sand to drain any reoccurring water seepage and cap it with concrete to match the rest of the house.
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/21/21 at 10:17 am to ds_engineer
You guys are way overthinking this. Flooded basements are really not that rare up north that’s why they use sump pumps. A basic sump pump installed lower then your slab is all that is needed here. OP could do it for probably $400-500 in parts at most. It’s not deal, but it will prevent flooding.
ETA: not sure what ‘den’ means as it can have multiple meanings. But if you cant have the above in the room you need it, as said you can place it outside to serve the same purpose. I’m not 100% sure how it would work as far as being outside or inside, but in reality you are just pumping the ground water out and if it was outside it would be only a couple of feet over.
My parents had this for a pool of theirs. Their water table was too high and their liner kept floating, so they would had a pump with 5-6 spots it pulled water out of the ground around the pool. Worked very well.
ETA: not sure what ‘den’ means as it can have multiple meanings. But if you cant have the above in the room you need it, as said you can place it outside to serve the same purpose. I’m not 100% sure how it would work as far as being outside or inside, but in reality you are just pumping the ground water out and if it was outside it would be only a couple of feet over.
My parents had this for a pool of theirs. Their water table was too high and their liner kept floating, so they would had a pump with 5-6 spots it pulled water out of the ground around the pool. Worked very well.
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 10:27 am
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