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Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:43 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5336 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:43 am
Does anyone know roughly what spray foam runs per sq ft? Think I want to go with closed cell since its new construction and don't want it to rise a whole lot

Going to call and get some quotes but also found this product that is DIY.

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Comes out to $1.42 a sq ft. Has anyone contracted to have this done and what was the price for the job?

Trying to decide if this is a good deal or if a contractor can do it for marginally more.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2368 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:00 am to
double post
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2368 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:03 am to
I think your math is way off. That kit will produce 43cu ft, which comes out to about 12 sq ft. At 850.00/kit that is $69/sq ft. Also, I can guarantee that you will not get the volume they claim out of those kits.

Edit: Apparently my math is way off, disregard this post
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6024 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:27 am to
I'm not sure where you live, but if it's in Louisiana and you're talking about spraying closed cell on exterior walls you probably need to do some more research. I had my roof deck sprayed with open cell as a retrofit (home built in the 60s) and we LOVE it. Love the cost savings, love the comfort, love everything about it. We've had multiple leaks (hurricanes) that we'd have never found if it were closed cell.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:28 am to
I’m interested in this for a very small job

Will it affect the existing drywall? I’m concerned with walls bowing
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1025 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:30 am to
I'm in the middle of getting my 30'x50' metal building done, closed cell, 2" thick on the walls and roof, came out to ~$10K. Got several estimates and they were all about the same.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:00 am to
Anyone have a situation like mine:
I have a front porch and a rear porch that are under the main roof with blue vinyl-non-perforated-soffit-like material. There are 3 dormers (part of interior rooms) and quite a bit of attic on one side
The back porch actually has almost a whole bedroom on top of it.


Do they spray over that? Or does that screw up the building envelope so much that it becomes not worth sealing the top?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31383 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I'm not sure where you live, but if it's in Louisiana and you're talking about spraying closed cell on exterior walls you probably need to do some more research. I had my roof deck sprayed with open cell as a retrofit (home built in the 60s) and we LOVE it. Love the cost savings, love the comfort, love everything about it. We've had multiple leaks (hurricanes) that we'd have never found if it were closed cell.



you spray walls with closed cell, roof with open

as far as leaks, unless you have torn tyvek, there is no way it can penetrate. If you have a hole in the tyvek, you have a whole in the brick/siding that you will see immediately.

what you talked about though is exactly why you put open on the roof though
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4473 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:53 am to
I can’t give you a cost since I used spray foam on my house 8 years ago. I sprayed foamed my exterior walls, laundry room walls for soundproofing, and a couple of inches in the attic floor to seal ceiling penetrations. I used blown cellulose over the bottom 2” in the attic to obtain desired R-values.

Couple of things I learned:

1. There needs to be fresh air introduced into the duct system.
2. For new construction, the spray foam will expand beyond the studs. They uses a milling machine to mill off the excess so as to be flush with the studs. But the spray foam can push out wiring or PEX so that this milling machine will damage it, Care shall be used while milling.

This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2012
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2017
45 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:19 pm to
I used sunlight contractors and couldn’t recommend enough. They were amazing. Open cell spray foam in attic for an old home. 2,200 sq ft back in 2021. It was $1.84/sq ft
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2013 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:23 pm to
3 month old quote for 50x65 barndo, roof and exposed sheetmetal in 2-3" closed cell, 12' and 10' walls 2-3" in open cell was $17,400 He said at that time prices would be falling. Good thing I'm a slow worker.
Posted by modes
Member since May 2017
258 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:30 pm to
I had the underneath of my raised house sprayed with 2in of closed cell (1800sf) for $2/sf.

As others have said, closed cell on walls and below raised floor, but open on underside of roof deck.
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:11 pm to
Not sure about price but that is defiantly not a diy project.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5336 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:50 am to
quote:

I think your math is way off. That kit will produce 43cu ft, which comes out to about 12 sq ft. At 850.00/kit that is $69/sq ft. Also, I can guarantee that you will not get the volume they claim out of those kits.

Edit: Apparently my math is way off, disregard this post


As the first response to my thread, I was really disappointed with myself until I saw your edit. I got a laugh.

Thanks for the responses and tips about closed cell in walls and open cell on roof. The site didn't really go into detail on that.

ETA: I am in Texas West of Fort Worth (Weatherford).
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 8:02 am
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5336 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Not sure about price but that is defiantly not a diy project.


Why do you say this?

I'm not a builder by trade, but I'm far from a novice at building and DIY. Having said that, I've never done spray foam insulation. It doesn't seem like anything more than time consuming. Or any more challenging than anything else I've been able to do. Do you have an experience as to why you say this.
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 8:54 am to
First of all I’ve seen at least 2 times that experienced contractors ( not foam guys, but people that have been in construction for years ) didn’t spray it correctly and the foam caught on fire. It’s a chemical reaction.
And second it’s a science on how a house should be insulated, if done incorrectly it can and will cause mold and mildew issues..
That’s just my two cents, if you do decide to do it yourself do as much research as you can.
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:00 am to
Oh and you can’t, or shouldn’t spray closed cell on roof decks because if the roof leaks it needs to drip through.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3925 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 9:36 am to
For those who added open cell to roof of existing construction, did you seal the entire attic or keep the same ventilation?
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25544 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:01 pm to
If you’re doing 2 x 6 framing I’d consider Spyder Insulation vs foam. On 2x4 framing you’ll notice considerable difference but on 2x6 it will be pretty indistinguishable. More expensive than batt insulation but much less than foam.
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:25 pm to
To do it right the existing insulation on the ceiling needs to be removed and the entire attic needs to be sealed.
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