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Should I dig up this owari satsuma or let it ride

Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7617 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:21 pm
I trimmed back all the way until I still had green under the bark. Most of the tree was dead. Planted it in 2016
Snow killed most of the tree.
Am I better off letting this play out and see if those little buds sprout off and make new branches. Or dig up and start with a brand new tree?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:44 pm to
If it's above the graft I'd let it play out, mainly from curiosity.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21485 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:43 pm to
Hard to tell if it's above or below the graft. Let those leaves flush out over the next week and we'll know for sure. If the leaves are trifoliate (triplet leaves in each cluster) then you know the satsuma is dead and you are only growing the worthless rootstock from below the graft.

If it's above the graft I'd absolutely keep it. A mature root system planted in 2016 will make a new tree for you faster than planting a small one will.

Actually I kind of think I can see the graft line on the second picture. It's very grainy so not certain. But if I'm right then you just narrowly saved the satsuma.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by La Squared
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2012
516 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:30 pm to
Dug ours up yesterday. It was an owari about the same age as yours. Had it wrapped during the freeze and the snow event but didn’t look like it made it. Had an artic frost we planted last year so we planted another yesterday.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

If it's above the graft I'd absolutely keep it. A mature root system planted in 2016 will make a new tree for you faster than planting a small one will.

This.

As the graft union is fairly low on the trunk, I think you have live Owario scion sprouting, and with that large established root system you’ll get rapid growth from new sprout(s). I would encourage you to train single central leader truck from one the new sprouts & cut back the existing trunk to right above the one you chose to keep as the new central leader.

Pruning info on citrus, likely more than you or me need to know but informative just the same. LINK.

I’m in the same boat as you with Owari, but not as much cold damage on an a Brown Select.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7617 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 3:10 pm to

Thanks
Here’s a better picture of second view
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21485 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:20 pm to
Can't tell with all the lichen on the base. Clean it off and take 4 pictures (one pic of each side). Even in this one I think I see the edge of a graft line but it's just not clean enough to say.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58354 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:04 pm to
I believe the sprouts you show are above the graft. However, rather than lose another couple of years, I wouldn’t risk it. I would dig up and start over this year.
Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
562 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:04 am to
That is above the graft. Let it ride.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24790 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:17 pm to
I took measure on my satsuma and all lived but all with damage. Oldest is a brown select. Second oldest is a owari. Youngest planted last year is an artic frost.

Anyone out there have an artic frost that lived without adding any heat like a light or a space heater?
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9723 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

This. As the graft union is fairly low on the trunk, I think you have live Owario scion sprouting, and with that large established root system you’ll get rapid growth from new sprout(s). I would encourage you to train single central leader truck from one the new sprouts & cut back the existing trunk to right above the one you chose to keep as the new central leader. Pruning info on citrus, likely more than you or me need to know but informative just the same. LINK. I’m in the same boat as you with Owari, but not as much cold damage on an a Brown Select.


Great info here.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7617 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:39 am to

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