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Citica8
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Gonzales, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Outdoor Kitchen setups
Working on plans for a custom new construction, putting together a wishlist before this get cut out of the budget


What do you have?
What do you wish you had?
What is unnecessary?
What would you change?


I want an under patio fireplace/tv, I already have a ceramic grill, I would like to be able to fry stuff or make a roux, so a cooktop would be nice, and I think I want a sink.

Vent hoods seem pointless, not sure why I would need a mini fridge


Drunken Crawfish
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Crushing 'skis at Tobin's house
Member since Apr 2017
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Mini fridge = convenient location for beer. Its so nice not to have to go inside to stock up.

If you can, I would also add another hose faucet for hot water. We boiled crawfish on Sunday and it cut our boil time in about half.

You'll definitely want a sink as well as a vent depending on your patio ceiling height and how close your cooking area is to the walls. I wish I had one in my outdoor area.


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Bookmarked. Moving in May.


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slinger1317
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Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
3261 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
I built a house last year, with an outdoor kitchen I designed.

It is U shaped with appliances on 2 sides and a raised bar on the 3rd side
12' ceilings with 2 fans (must for circulation on muggy days/nights)
Ceilings were high enough I opted not to go with a vent hood over the grill
Travertine Floors (matches pool deck)
Stained pine V groove ceiling (just enough to look rustic)
2 TV's mounted w/swivel brackets, both tied to same feed- DirecTV/Apple TV in cabinet inside house
Wall Mount speakers with SONOS Connect amp, can play music or TV sound
Lynx 42" grill w/ ceramic burners and infrared trident burner
Lynx double side burner
Blaze mini fridge
Blaze Ice Maker
Sink w/ old school spray nozzle
Blaze under counter storage (drawers/access doors)
Slide in Trash Can


Make sure you give yourself plenty of counter space. People get caught up in having grills, burners etc., but then they start cooking and realize they have no where to set pans, meat, etc. for prep.
Try to get a sink if you can
Trash can is often left out- but it is a MUST.
Hot water hose bib somewhere nearby is always nice
Gas stub out for crawfish burner is not needed. Propane bottles are much faster and more convenient. You obviously will have gas for your grill/burner.
Try to maximize the under counter drawers, the more stuff (rags/utensils/seasonings/etc.) you can keep outside the better. You don't want to have to drag your inside materials out everytime you want to cook.
We have a pool and I wish I had another drawer just for pool towels/goggles etc.

I'm still settling into what goes where. Now that the weather is warming up we are starting to use it a lot more. I have always loved to cook, and be outside so it was well worth it to me to splurge a little.

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hungryone
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river parishes
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Count me as an outlier--I'm not a fan of massive built in outdoor kitchens. My home kitchen has direct access to back porch and side yard--it is literally three steps from the sink to the screen porch that runs across the back of the house. I planned the kitchen and porch with an eye toward indoor/outdoor cooking, without the need to duplicate everything I already had inside.

Keeping all of that outdoor stuff clean, bug-free, and in working order is a PITA. I've got better things to do (like cook) than to polish outdoor stainless steel appliances and granite countertops.

That said, if you're not putting in a vent hood, consider a couple of ceiling fans or a mounted oscillating fan that can direct smoke away from your seating area or house.


AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
62758 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
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with an eye toward indoor/outdoor cooking, without the need to duplicate everything I already had inside.
This is where I am headed. New house has down vent cook top with no hood, so I'd like to cook everything smokey and fry outside.


hungryone
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river parishes
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
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New house has down vent cook top with no hood, so I'd like to cook everything smokey and fry outside.

I had one of those in my last house, so I feel your pain. I put a big honking 48" hood over my high BTU stove. BGE on back porch. I've got a spare fridge and chest freezer in the garage, I don't need another one in the back yard.


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DivotBreath
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On the course
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Added an outdoor kitchen and living area two years ago and it completely changed the way we use our house. Mine is a large “U” shape with a lot of counter space and an elevated bar with enough room for 4 barstools (and a foot-rail I made with pipe from Lowe’s). If I missed anything, I haven’t noticed it, but you get used to making what you have work for you. Mine includes the following:

— Blaze 4 burner grill naturally vented to the outside of patio
— Blaze outdoor refrigerator
— Blaze double door storage under sink
— Blaze double drawer and access door under grill
— Blaze double drawer storage
— Deep sink (tied into existing line and added 2.5 gallon hot water tank under cabinet)
— Two Haiku fans by Big arse Fans (expensive but well worth it)
— TV mounted on swivel
— Stand outdoor heater that can be moved out of the way

Most of that is pretty standard with the possible exception of splurging on the fans instead of buying cheap fans. The one recommendation I would stress was actually an afterthought I had during the construction of the bar and installation of the Blaze storage units ... make sure you have access to all of the under-counter area or you are wasting valuable storage space. I had my builder cut two access doors into my cabinet area and make two wood doors that blend in. If I had not done that, then there would be no access between my double-drawer stainless steel storage and my double-drawer and access door under my grill since the drawer configuration would have prevented the access as that is a wholly contained steel push in unit. I may not have done a good job describing that, but just make sure you have access to all your under counter area.


Citica8
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Gonzales, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3268 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups


Pardon the rough sketch, preliminary plans are in the works. Everything in the drawing is under the roof, if nothing else gets done the rough in for plumbing and gas will be done, but the fireplace and cabinet should definitely happen. I have a gas grill that rarely gets used, but I know I’ll use a burner. I think the sink would get a lot of use, but I know I’m not doing dishes out there, but there’s a half bath and kitchen sink pretty close to the patio door

Fans are a must, also looked at those patio heaters, like below, but probably isn’t necessary down here with a fire place.

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I don’t want to over crowd the space, both cooking and seating area, that’s my biggest issue will have an outdoor dining table, then some seating near the fireplace


DivotBreath
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re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Considering your large open area, I would add at least 4’ more counter space. Consider it like garage space ... no matter how big you build it you will always need more! If you plan to do a lot of entertaining, the extra counter space can be used to lay out food or appetizers while people stand around and socialize.


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theCrusher
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Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
568 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
We built the following

Kitchen
1. 24'x30' stamped concert covered pavilion with 10' ceilings(next to our pool the pool is stamped too)
2. U shaped bar with an old Chicago style brick and a black galaxy granite counter top. It's on one side. The part of the bar facing the yard has a green egg (it has a bump out so it's surrounded in granite), a dual gas burner and 36" gas grill (burner and grill are dcs). Opposite is a farm style stainless steel sink. Two sides of the bar have a 11" over hang. We did put in drawers and access doors however having a garbage can is a must. Remember to leave space for trays and be conscious of how many steps there are between things like the grill and the sink.
3. Macroair fan 8' (this is worth the money)
4. Lakeview furniture and fire table in the open area. The table is propane as we wanted the option to move the furniture around so we didn't fix a gas line in the slab.
5. External NG hook up.

Sitting pad (smoking)
Using old style brick we build a 10'x12' pad with a bevolo gas lantern in the middle. We added wrought iron benches and it's a good place to drink bourbon,smoke a cigar and visit. It's surrounded by azaleas

Shed
16'x14' 8'ft ceiling and we floated sheet rock. I put a tv and recliner in and it has a work bench on one side.

Finally we connected the entire build with a stamped cement walkway. Given how wet it stays in SELA this was a must have.

I would add a fireplace to the pavilion if i could do it over.

We didn't do an outdoor fridge or ice maker as the ones we've owned always break. I put a beer fridge in my shed and in the garage (you don't want to walk too far for a beer )

I'd observe the wind direction and the impact the sun will have. 95% of the time the wind direction blows the smoke out in the yard and it's why we put the grills on the outside. When it blow into the pavilion the fan takes care of it. We did have to add sun shades.

We bought from shopperschioce in baton rouge.


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Coater
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Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
29574 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
A sink is a must

I use my under counter fridge regularly for beer when I’m in the back watching TV so I would definitely recommend getting one.


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tigersnipen
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Member since Dec 2006
1978 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Anyone in the BR area have a good outdoor kitchen contractor? I'm looking for just the island build out/plumbing/electrical and maybe a vent install. I will purchase all the equipment myself.


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Ric Flair
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Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
10150 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
Seems like an icemaker in the garage would be a better investment than an outdoor fridge. I already have a garage fridge for beer. The extra step of loading a few scoops of ice into an ice chest seems negligible vs the maintenance of an outdoor fridge.


Citica8
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Gonzales, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3268 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
That’s kind of my thought as well, but I’m also more of a whiskey drinker than a beer drinker, my bar is gonna be close by. I’d probably only use a fridge for water while doing yard work, but I think I’ll get a mini fridge for the shop.

I’m actually thinking about adding a water fountain


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AmosMosesAndTwins
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Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
13946 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
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maintenance of an outdoor fridge


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maintenance of an icemaker


I don’t need a fireplace outside. It’s Louisiana. If you must, at least incorporate a pizza oven.
Opted for large brick cutout overlooking backyard rather than vent hood.
Ceiling fans, duh. Timed bug spray system under porch and eaves is super nice and yes the spray is safe to ingest.
Sink large enough to clean large pots. Undermounted to use countertop as direct workspace and wipe mess directly into sink. Handwashing sink next to grill, pff, women. I’m putting a heavy duty disposal in too - no more scraping into trash cans or bringing the mess inside.
If sinking in a grill, do yourself a favor and make sure you’re installing a size available from several manufacturers. A super badass grill isn’t so super badass when you can’t find a replacement. Always wanted a builtin flattop.
Crawfish boil setups never work out. The heat and noise are too much when entertaining and especially with kids. Still have to lug that heavy arse pot to pour out and a drain on the porch just becomes a mess. My dad put in a drain at the back corner of his lot as part of landscaping planning but it’s the GOAT crawfish water dump. Hot water filler outside is great though.
Plan your noise carefully. Directing my sound away from the house and purposely drew solid brick wall between master and porch - no doors or windows so I can dick off as late as I want without issue. TV mounted in a corner on swivel as far from elements as possible. Never been wild about overhead speakers, I’m good with a decent soundbar.
Can lights on dimmer. Double the outlets you think you need and make sure the load of all of them used at once can be handled. Crockpots, electric fryers, smokers, phone chargers, etc. so on and so forth, don’t want to go dark every time there’s a get together.
Pisser: I dislike bathrooms opening to exterior. They’re hot and impossible to keep bug free. Full bath/porch/garage/laundry by one another for me, with a couple strategic blind spots in the yard for when I get out of hand.


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Citica8
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Gonzales, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3268 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
(Bump)


So we’ve had some layout changes to the plans, outdoor kitchen location is likely moving from earlier spot.

Can those of you with outdoor setups tell me how long it is, and what you have on it?


slinger1317
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Louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
3261 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
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Can those of you with outdoor setups tell me how long it is, and what you have on it?


My main counter space is 13.5 feet long. It has a sink, 42" grill and a double side burner that is about a foot wide. Under the sink is an access door, under the grill is a 40" drawer/cabinet combo, and under the burner I have a double drawer. I also have an under counter ice maker in this section. I have a short side that is open counterspace, the fridge is under that section. The return side is a bar, also 13.5', with a single drawer and slide in trash can built in.

Must have a sink and trash can. Leave yourself a few feet of open counterspace, you will definitely need it. Make sure not to just fill your counter with appliances- remember you need somewhere to set your food/condiments/prep area.

I would seriously consider not going with a fireplace. They are expensive and how much are you really going to use it? It is Louisiana. You might use it a few times a year and the rest of the time it will just be in the way. I know it looks cool to see your buddy's post on FB in December with his fireplace, but in reality that just doesn't make good sense here in LA. But that's jut me. Get a portable propane heater like you see in all the restaurants these days and spend that money elsewhere.


WHODAT514
New Orleans Saints Fan
Livingston
Member since Mar 2012
1695 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
quote:

So we’ve had some layout changes to the plans, outdoor kitchen location is likely moving from earlier spot. Can those of you with outdoor setups tell me how long it is, and what you have on it?


shoot me a message buddy, I can send you pics and a cad file or pdf of my kitchen. its simple and serves its purpose.


tigerfoot
LA-Monroe Fan
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
37102 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchen setups
I’m trying to decide on a design as well.

I have flip flopped about 10 times

All I want is a sink, grill, place for my Primo, trash can, and drawers.



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