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old easement dispute with AT&T and their stupid pedestal
Posted on 4/5/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 12:36 pm
Recently decided to try and request move the AT&T pedestal that's in my backyard. It's just a major eye sore and I would rather have it moved to the servitude that's behind my yard with the adjacent neighborhood. I got AT&T to come out and check it and as they inspected it, the guy told me that it was so old that it still had some copper in it that would involve some major digging, so they would have to send it to the engineering team to figure out, but it would not be for free like originally thought because of this copper stuff inside. Can't remember all the details about it.
It appears that this utility pedestal from AT&T was placed there when the neighborhood was originally built, and I'm assuming there wasn't an adjacent neighborhood, so there wasn't necessarily a need for an easement. The guy told me the only thing he could think of was that since the power/cable lines above are somewhat in line with the pedestal, that was originally some type of easement back then, even though it's on my backyard property and fenced in. Below is the pedestal, and to the right is the fence I would like the pedestal to be placed behind:
AT&T said it would cost a couple thousand just to do the work to move it to the newer servitude. Am I just going to have to live with this until the day comes (if it ever does) that I decide I want it moved? I know it's active because my neighbors have a line running to the box for internet, so it's not like I can get it shut down completely.
It appears that this utility pedestal from AT&T was placed there when the neighborhood was originally built, and I'm assuming there wasn't an adjacent neighborhood, so there wasn't necessarily a need for an easement. The guy told me the only thing he could think of was that since the power/cable lines above are somewhat in line with the pedestal, that was originally some type of easement back then, even though it's on my backyard property and fenced in. Below is the pedestal, and to the right is the fence I would like the pedestal to be placed behind:
AT&T said it would cost a couple thousand just to do the work to move it to the newer servitude. Am I just going to have to live with this until the day comes (if it ever does) that I decide I want it moved? I know it's active because my neighbors have a line running to the box for internet, so it's not like I can get it shut down completely.
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:04 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Sure would suck if a tree fell on it
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:08 pm to wickowick
Yeah, that would suck. Or any kind of act of God that damages it severely.
Only problem is you've brought it up to them so could be seen as suspicious.
Only problem is you've brought it up to them so could be seen as suspicious.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:17 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Sounds like you fenced in over AT&T’s original easement. You may own the property, but AT&T has rights to use it via said easement. Have you had a survey done?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:20 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
~Paint it camo.
~Put some hedges around it.
~Put a hat on it and dress it up.
~Put some hedges around it.
~Put a hat on it and dress it up.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:55 pm to MikeBRLA
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Sounds like you fenced in over AT&T’s original easement. You may own the property, but AT&T has rights to use it via said easement.
Two parts to this. Chain link fence was here when we bought the house and everyone on this side of the street has the same chain link fence. The wooden fence is put up by our asshat neighbors who wanted to not look at us poors and built a fence along the servitude side that's not even theirs. I could technically cut it down whenever I want, but I'm glad I don't have to look at them.
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Have you had a survey done?
Considering doing this so I can fence in the sides of my property because my neighbors have kids that refuse to play in their backyard and leave all their shite on part of my front yard, so this will probably be done sometime in the future.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:56 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Any chance AT&T could convert the pedestal to a box in the ground? At least then it would be flush with the ground and not such an eye sore.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:46 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Not best case scenario, but if you are already going to do some fencing would it not be cheaper to put fencing inside that box across the back of your property (so you don't have to see it) than the couple of thousand to move it? Looks like you'd only be losing a few feet of yard.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:33 pm to Bueller?
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Any chance AT&T could convert the pedestal to a box in the ground?
Doubtful. Remove the cover and it's a ton of wires going through. If there's a conversion process to change it underground, I would imagine it would cost some money as well.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:35 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
It would be over 200 feet of fencing from one end to the other. I'd rather not have to go that route. I also don't want to give the snooty neighbors the satisfaction of having more fake yard space.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:36 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:i dont see any chickens in that picture
Below is the pedestal
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:37 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Have you looked up the easement online? You should be able to check the tax collector's office and see who all has an easement and where that easement is located? They can tell you all of the utility companies.
If your neighbor put up a fence on your property, FYI after a certain number of years staying that way he can claim it as his. I'd make him take it down or understand the consequences.
I agree with the others, can you not consider moving the AT&T box to his side of the fence?
If your neighbor put up a fence on your property, FYI after a certain number of years staying that way he can claim it as his. I'd make him take it down or understand the consequences.
I agree with the others, can you not consider moving the AT&T box to his side of the fence?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:49 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Have one in our front yard and was told the same thing. Couple grand to move. I just painted it black.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:50 pm to baldona
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can you not consider moving the AT&T box to his side of the fence?
Well that's the problem. AT&T gave me some weird explanation to tell me that if I wanted it moved, it would be at my own expense.
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If your neighbor put up a fence on your property, FYI after a certain number of years staying that way he can claim it as his
They actually put it up against my current fence, which is seen in the picture. The green line is the property lines according to the EBR Assessor's website. I highlighted in Paint because it was hard to see without. The arrow points to the pedestal. Clearly the land in between the green lines is the servitude now.
The neighbors at the house across the neighbor directly from me are the asshats who secretly paid some workers to build another fence next to our neighborhood to make their lots look bigger, while also gating in the servitude entrance with a padlock.
Again, the whole issue isn't that AT&T can't do the job, it's that the box is so old an ancient that they claim the labor would be more than similar just placing it into the servitude, and that's the issue I'm running into.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:35 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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old easement dispute with AT&T and their stupid pedestal
dig a hole right next to it, lay it down in the hole, and cover it with dirt.
claim to know nothing about it and you never knew it was there, if they ask who buried it.
but you may have screwed the pooch already by making a complaint about it
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:47 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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The green line is the property lines according to the EBR Assessor's website. I highlighted in Paint because it was hard to see without. The arrow points to the pedestal. Clearly the land in between the green lines is the servitude now.
The pic w your green lines isn't accurate enough to know if the AT&T equipment is in or out of the servitude
AT&T may tell you to move your fence
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:55 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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The green line is the property lines according to the EBR Assessor's website
The lines on that website are not meant to be used in place of a survey and are not accurate at all.
Obviously they are shifted over as one of them runs through your neighbor’s house.
If you shift them over so that fence is in the middle of the two green lines (probably the actual servitude lines), then the AT&T box falls within the servitude lines and thus they have no obligation to move it.
Like I said initially, your fence is encroaching on AT&T’s servitude (to make YOUR lot look bigger). You and your neighbor are both guilty of the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:56 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:59 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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Well that's the problem. AT&T gave me some weird explanation to tell me that if I wanted it moved, it would be at my own expense.
This is correct. There is definitely a utility servitude running through your back yard. They have a right to put whatever they want there, unfortunately.
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The green line is the property lines according to the EBR Assessor's website. I highlighted in Paint because it was hard to see without. The arrow points to the pedestal. Clearly the land in between the green lines is the servitude now.
You cant trust the lines on the EBR assessor's site, they usually aren't accurate compared to the aerial. You will need to access the actual plat map and have it verified by a surveyor.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:42 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
I'm surprised the guy that came out didn't raise hell about the fences being in the middle of the servitude, in my limited experience that isn't allowed they have to be on the outside of them with access to the middle.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:48 pm
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