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Oak tree selection help por favor - selected shumard oak
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:19 am
This fall I am going to take down 2 dying water oaks and go back with a single new oak planting. My choices so far:
Willow Oak
Nutall Oak
Shumard Oak
Smaller, urban yard. My guy keeps recommending the nutall but I am located outside of its home range so I am uneasy about long term longevity (I’m in Georgia).
Which does the board recommend? Any others? Thanks in advance!
Willow Oak
Nutall Oak
Shumard Oak
Smaller, urban yard. My guy keeps recommending the nutall but I am located outside of its home range so I am uneasy about long term longevity (I’m in Georgia).
Which does the board recommend? Any others? Thanks in advance!
This post was edited on 8/1/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:25 am to weagle99
What's your soil like (check Soil Web Survey)?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:46 am to weagle99
Try a white oak or maybe a cow oak.
What’s the desire for this specific 3?
What’s the desire for this specific 3?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:02 am to weagle99
We have both willow oaks and shumard oaks in our yard and have planted both. I like both, willow oaks seem to grow faster here (central Arkansas) but they also seem more vulnerable to breaking large limbs in storms.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:21 am to Geauxld Finger
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What’s the desire for this specific 3?
They were recommended as faster growing oaks that would work in the location but I’m open to suggestions.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:23 am to Hammertime
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What's your soil like (check Soil Web Survey)?
Will do and post the results.
It is fairly sandy, that much I know.
ETA: I looked. It is called Orangeburg sandy loam
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:24 am to CAT
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We have both willow oaks and shumard oaks in our yard and have planted both. I like both, willow oaks seem to grow faster here (central Arkansas) but they also seem more vulnerable to breaking large limbs in storms.
Thanks! How does leaf raking compare between the 2 types?
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:40 am to weagle99
"Thanks! How does leaf raking compare between the 2 types?"
Willow oak leaves are slim and almost disappear. Shumard have bigger leaves.
I also have both, but those willow oak limbs keep snapping as the previous poster mentioned. I prefer Shumard.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 12:32 pm to ItzMe1972
Shumard is better than willow.
Take a look at Cow Oaks aka Swamp Chestnut Oak. Good and hardy oak. Can take moisture but can also be in drier soils. Very versatile and different. Gets some decent fall color as well
Take a look at Cow Oaks aka Swamp Chestnut Oak. Good and hardy oak. Can take moisture but can also be in drier soils. Very versatile and different. Gets some decent fall color as well
Posted on 7/19/19 at 12:49 pm to weagle99
Don't waste your time raking. Run over that shite with your mower
Posted on 7/19/19 at 1:01 pm to weagle99
Though I don’t have any of the 3, each of my surrounding neighbors have one of the 3, and I’m the beneficiary of much of their winter leaves that I use as mulch.
Each tree is 25 years old. In my opinion the Shumard is the nicest looking, eye appeal, of the 3. The Willow oak is attractive and also the largest with the widest canopy - fastest growing. The Nutall oak, although nice looking, is the “twiggest” of the group and smallest (after 25 years), height and canopy wise.
Leaves of the willow oak can be used directly as mulch in the landscape bed without chopping. In Louisiana, the willow oak is designated as a LSU AgCenter Superplant.
Cherry Bark oak, almost identical to the Shumard, has fuzzy, lighter green color to the underside of the leaf, and has a very attractive eye-catching appeal when spring and fall winds blow and rustle the leaves.
Each tree is 25 years old. In my opinion the Shumard is the nicest looking, eye appeal, of the 3. The Willow oak is attractive and also the largest with the widest canopy - fastest growing. The Nutall oak, although nice looking, is the “twiggest” of the group and smallest (after 25 years), height and canopy wise.
Leaves of the willow oak can be used directly as mulch in the landscape bed without chopping. In Louisiana, the willow oak is designated as a LSU AgCenter Superplant.
Cherry Bark oak, almost identical to the Shumard, has fuzzy, lighter green color to the underside of the leaf, and has a very attractive eye-catching appeal when spring and fall winds blow and rustle the leaves.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 1:14 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Shumard is better than willow.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 1:56 pm to weagle99
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Smaller, urban yard.
Based on the smaller, urban yard, Shumards, Nuttalls and Willow Oaks all get 40-50' spread which may be too big for your yard. If you want a smaller oak, look at the Georgia Oak.
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Georgia Oak Georgia oaks (Quercus georgiana) are small, deciduous trees that grow 20 to 40 feet tall and with a 15 foot spread. The leaves are small, with three to six lobes; they turn bright red in the fall. Georgia oaks grow in rocky, dry areas of Georgia zones 7a, 7b and 8a. Georgia oaks are well-suited as specimen trees in small yards or along streets.
A non-oak but a great tree is the Chinese Pistache that gets 35' tall x 30' wide.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:00 pm to weagle99
Neighbor has a willow oak that was planted right after Katrina took their live oak... so 13 years old. The tree is gorgeous, huge, and perfectly proportioned. I would have planted one in my backyard then had I known about them.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:03 pm to weagle99
Have you looked into a Japanese Saw-tooth Oak?
I think they grow pretty fast.
Sawtooth Oak
I think they grow pretty fast.
Sawtooth Oak
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:20 pm to REB BEER
I have about 5 sawtooth oaks in my large front yard,hate them.Constantly dropping twigs.If you don’t mind just chopping them up with mower might be ok but I’m too OCD.
I would prefer Shumard oaks.
I would prefer Shumard oaks.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:32 pm to LSUA 75
10-4 I don't personally have any but my uncle does and I like their unique look. The Shumards are very nice looking oaks.
Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:42 pm to weagle99
Willow Oaks have thin leaves that are a pain to blow off the yard. But they are nice trees overall
Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:30 pm to Zappas Stache
Thanks everyone for the recommendations!
Posted on 7/20/19 at 7:45 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Take a look at Cow Oaks aka Swamp Chestnut Oak. Good and hardy oak. Can take moisture but can also be in drier soils. Very versatile and different. Gets some decent fall color as well
Better adapted to wetter sites than drier. Also gets very big, and one of the slower growing oaks compared to willow, shumard, and nuttall. Also makes massive acorns that someone may not want in their yard.
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